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Quote from: statmonkeyHmm. I am a double edge guy myself. Can't grow a beard to save my life. Jedi I hope you take this with the respect that is intended (with a little playfulness) and you consider that there might be some other ways to see this.
Quote from: jedi on September 05, 2014, 04:00:21 AMI definitely will cede the point that systemd is not the end all, be all solution for Linux. Hopefully I clarified that in the follow up post. Linux IS all about choice.
Quote from: VastOne on September 05, 2014, 04:16:57 AM...I looked into runit and if I have it right, there would need to be a boatload of scripts created or used to start all of the services neededSo far in my testing I have removed systemd and gone back to sysVinit with the only issues being not able to reboot or shut down from the commands, but that would be an easy fixAnyone care to look at runit and see how much work there maybe in getting these service scripts in order? It sounds like a tall leap to me and one I am not quite ready to jump into.. perhaps a cold weather thing I could doI love this thread and discussions... we have had two users clash in the most civil way I have seen regarding systemd, you jedi and statmonkey deserve a slap on the back and a 'atta boy', kennit?Well done mates, well done
Quote from: statmonkey on September 05, 2014, 03:02:23 AMAnd now a word from our contrarian sponsor. No offense to anyone intended... this is a discussion.
Quote from: PackRat on September 03, 2014, 03:28:46 PM^ No kidding.Then there is thislink might be a double post; lost track of this thread.I for one, am really waiting to see what path Slackware takes.Edit - click on the "No Seriously" link in item 2 of the above link and enjoy the read - priceless.
Quote from: statmonkey on September 06, 2014, 02:41:32 AMThen there is thisEdit - click on the "No Seriously" link in item 2 of the above link and enjoy the read - priceless.
Quote from: Lennart Poettering"Yupp, journal corruptions result in rotation, and when reading we try to make the best of it. they are nothing we really need to fix hence."
Quote from: statmonkeySo journal corruption is normal. Think about that. You have an issue, you need to see what went wrong and then ... oh sorry that just happened to be a journal that got corrupted so you are on your own. Now multiply that over hundreds of programs and machines writing to the journals, etc. DISASTER and a realistic disaster as well.If it ain't fixed then break it as a design philosophy? Oh, sorry Jedi there's that word again.
Quote from: VastOne on September 27, 2014, 04:58:11 AMI am just going to quote the first line of this and leave it to you all to read the tutorial... Like it or not, systemd is here to stay, so we might as well know what to do with itUnderstanding and Using SystemdIt is not meant to raise the ire of anyone any higher but to educate...
Quote from: jeffreyC on September 27, 2014, 06:49:56 AM45 • Some quotes about systemd (by RollMeAway on 2014-09-26 04:07:08 GMT from United States)Poettering:"it unifies system objects and their dependencies""One goal of systemd is to unify the dispersed Linux landscape""trying to gently push everybody towards the same set of basic configuration""we'd like to unify the most boring bits where there's really no point at all in being different"