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General Support / Re: n00b Question
« Last post by VastOne on May 17, 2018, 10:13:51 PM »
Hello Kilroy and welcome to VSIDO..

What RatMan said..   8)

I would also advise you to get to know and use fsarchiver.. it is by far the easiest and most practical disaster recovery tool ever.. EVER!

I have a How To on this forum to use fsarchiver It is a life saver.. As the developer I have fallen into some of the traps PackRat indicated.. They were both Perl related and it was I who didn't trust my gut and went ahead with the update.. Anyway, fsarchiver saved my ass because I had backups made and restored the developer / build partition in seconds.. that is NOT a misprint, in seconds I was back up and running .. also, SpaceFM (the greatest file manager ever and default for VSIDO) has builtin tools to backup and restore partitions with fsarchiver.. I SWEAR BY BOTH! Nad use both every single day

Another really good practice is to do a weekly dist-upgrade, that seems to be a good rhythm of updates without massive hits on your server (a lot of updates at once IMO is not a good thing so doing it weekly keeps it balanced)

Finally, do an fsarchiver backup before any major kernel updates.. this way if the kernel might not like you video card (rare now) you have the backup to fall back on...Just as PackRat indicated I try to remain at sid levels (dist-upgrade) every day so I see what is coming and I always make sure this forum is aware of it

This is something I wrote recently for twitter friends who did not know what VSIDO or SID was... It may also add some information to your decisions

When I created VSIDO it was a combination of what I knew and wanted and what several friends recommended and well the rest is history

I had been using Debian SID for several years and could not understand why it had such a bad reputation.. There were at the time a few SID distros but most have gone by the wayside..

I also wanted a distro that gave the newest user who downloaded it no more than 2 weeks of being a dist-upgrade of packages behind.. For the most part I have done just that.. Everytime there is a kernel upgrade or every 2 weeks I rebuild, test and deploy the distro.. It has worked out quite well

The other drive behind this was the frustrating world of Stable Debian where you have to wait 2-3 years for any new packages based on their release schedules..

Over the last 6 years of VSIDO and the 3 before it as I used Debian SID I can count on one hand anything that 'broke' my system because of a package.. Two of those three were because of Perl.. Classic case of the Perl devs not letting the application package maintainers the chance to catch up...

Other than those it has been an absolute joy

Mayhap more than you were expecting, but it is the story of VSIDO

Good luck and please don't hesitate to get in touch with any of us
General Support / Re: n00b Question
« Last post by PackRat on May 17, 2018, 07:27:42 PM »
VSIDO is really stable.

The main - as in recurring - issues occur when perl, python, and xorg get upgraded. They're big packages so some dependacies may lag a bit; Vastone (the developer) usually spots those upgrades early and give the forum a heads up. VSIDO has all the apt safeguards enabled, so as long as you adhere to best practices and pay attention when you upgrade it should be smooth sailing.
General Support / n00b Question
« Last post by Kilroy on May 17, 2018, 04:52:54 PM »
Hello, everybody,

I've only tried vsido live so far, but what I see I like. However, I also plan to use Linux productively, in my professional environment. Every RR distribution, no matter if sid or Arch (etc.) brings with it the danger that the system will be broken during an upgrade. The last time I used a Debian sid based distribution was at the time of sidux, almost 10 years ago. What are your experiences with stability? I am looking for a distribution that is lightweight and has a friendly community to contact in case of problems.

- K.
Artwork & Screenshots / Re: May 2018 Screenshot Thread
« Last post by PackRat on May 16, 2018, 03:55:50 PM »

Found out that mc file manager does ftp transfers so had to give it a go:

Artwork & Screenshots / Re: May 2018 Screenshot Thread
« Last post by lwfitz on May 11, 2018, 07:34:16 AM »
And, my annual post.......  :D :D

Fresh install after a canon print driver install  uninstalled like 250 packages. Thats what I get for hitting Y without paying attention
Artwork & Screenshots / Re: May 2018 Screenshot Thread
« Last post by jedi on May 09, 2018, 09:07:59 AM »
New mainline stable 4.16.7 seems pretty sharp.  Just a couple hours in so we'll see.

Artwork & Screenshots / Re: May 2018 Screenshot Thread
« Last post by jedi on May 09, 2018, 06:44:25 AM »
Very envious PackRat!  I'd have Windows 10 installed if for no other reason than to be able to actually run comparable programs and see the tremendous Linux whoop ass that would encur!  Somebody wants to hand over a valid LEGAL Win 10 product key I'm all in for testing it on a dual-boot basis!   :D
Haven't been to active, not just here, but on the computer period.  Life throws curves, we install VSIDO...

So my first May scrots.  I was compiling a new kernel and decided to chill out by watching the David Gilmore Live in Gdansk DVD.  Just wow...

Another one gone to soon...  (Richard Wright whom reminded me of my dad so much and just lost Jan.6th)  They both had a love and serious skill on the Hammond Organ with a good Leslie speaker.  Think he played a B or C series Hammond...

And what the hey, here's one more if you think Gilmore can't draw a crowd!

Artwork & Screenshots / Re: May 2018 Screenshot Thread
« Last post by PackRat on May 06, 2018, 09:18:56 PM »
OS upgrades came through where the wife works; QA/QC requirements forced my hand on the home computers:

fairly painless so far - once the upgrade bs stops, I'll set up the dual boot.
General Support / Re: SpaceFM not fully abandoned... it seems!
« Last post by VastOne on May 03, 2018, 06:10:21 PM »
IgnorantGuru handed over the maintainer keys to Mateusz Łukasik sometime ago.. It was all on IG's blog at one time.. Mateusz Łukasik had been silently maintaining it for almost a year (or more) while IG was on his hiatus
WM Designs and Discussions / Re: Fluxbox Styles
« Last post by PackRat on May 03, 2018, 12:05:52 PM »
Port of the City Lights openbox theme to fluxbox. Follow the link on dobbie's first post to get the matching GTK 2/3, xfwm, openbox themes -

fluxbox with City Lights Flat GTK3 -

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! fluxbox style - city lights
! created by PackRat
! fluxbox port of City Lights GTK/Openbox theme by Matt Dobson:
! creation date - 05-01-2018
! This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
! it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
! the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
! (at your option) any later version.

! This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
! but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
! GNU General Public License for more details see <>.

*.font:   Fira Sans-11:Light
;toolbar.workspace.font:          Source Code Pro-11:regular
;toolbar.clock.font:              Source Code Pro-11:regular
!toolbar.iconbar.focused.font:    Source Serif Pro-11:semibold
!toolbar.iconbar.unfocused.font:  Source Serif Pro-11:regular
!window.font:                    <font>
!window.label.focus.font:         Source Serif Pro-11:regular
!window.label.unfocus.font:       Source Serif Pro-11:regular
!menu.frame.font:                <font>
!menu.hilite.font:               Source Serif Pro-11:regular
!menu.title.font:                <font>

toolbar: flat gradient vertical
toolbar.height:                 24
toolbar.bevelWidth:             1
toolbar.color:                  #131920
toolbar.colorTo:                #131920
toolbar.borderColor:            #131920
toolbar.borderWidth:            1
toolbar.shaped:                 false

toolbar.clock:                  flat gradient vertical
toolbar.clock.borderColor:      #131920
toolbar.clock.borderWidth:      0
toolbar.clock.justify:          Center
toolbar.clock.color:            #131920
toolbar.clock.colorTo:          #131920
toolbar.clock.textColor:        #B5B9BF

toolbar.systray: parentrelative
!toolbar.systray.color: #0D1114
!toolbar.systray.colorTo: #0D1114

toolbar.workspace:              flat gradient vertical
toolbar.workspace.color:        #131920
toolbar.workspace.colorTo:      #131920
toolbar.workspace.justify:      Center
toolbar.workspace.textColor:    #B5B9BF
toolbar.workspace.borderColor:  #131920
toolbar.workspace.borderWidth:  0

toolbar.button: parentrelative
toolbar.button.PicColor: #B5B9BF
toolbar.button.scale: 0.5

toolbar.iconbar.empty:          flat gradient vertical
toolbar.iconbar.empty.color:    #131920
toolbar.iconbar.empty.colorTo:  #131920
toolbar.iconbar.borderColor:    #1D252C
toolbar.iconbar.borderWidth:    1

toolbar.iconbar.focused:        flat gradient vertical
toolbar.iconbar.focused.color: #1D252C
toolbar.iconbar.focused.colorTo: #1D252C
toolbar.iconbar.focused.borderColor: #1D252C
toolbar.iconbar.focused.borderWidth:    1
toolbar.iconbar.focused.justify:        Center
toolbar.iconbar.focused.textColor: #ECEFF4

toolbar.iconbar.unfocused:        flat gradient vertical
toolbar.iconbar.unfocused.color:       #131920
toolbar.iconbar.unfocused.colorTo:     #131920
toolbar.iconbar.unfocused.borderColor: #1D252C
toolbar.iconbar.unfocused.borderWidth:  1
toolbar.iconbar.unfocused.justify:      Center
toolbar.iconbar.unfocused.textColor:  #B5B9BF

window.title.height:            20
window.justify:                 Center
window.bevelWidth:              0
window.borderColor:             #131920
window.borderWidth:             3
!window.roundCorners:            <{Top|Bottom}{Left|Right}>
!window.frame.focusColor:        <color>
!window.frame.unfocusColor:      <color>

window.title.focus:             flat gradient vertical
window.title.focus.color:       #131920
window.title.focus.colorTo:     #131920

window.title.unfocus:           flat gradient vertical
window.title.unfocus.color:     #131920
window.title.unfocus.colorTo:   #131920

!            flat gradient vertical gradient horizontal
!  #E5E5E5

window.label.focus:             flat gradient vertical
window.label.focus.color:       #131920
window.label.focus.colorTo:     #131920
window.label.focus.textColor:   #ECEFF4

window.label.unfocus:           flat gradient vertical
window.label.unfocus.color:     #131920
window.label.unfocus.colorTo:   #131920
window.label.unfocus.textColor: #B5B9BF

window.button.focus:            flat gradient vertical
window.button.focus.color:      #131920
window.button.focus.colorTo:    #131920
window.button.focus.picColor:   #B5B9BF
window.button.pressed: sunken bevel2
window.button.pressed.color:    #1D252C
window.button.pressed.colorTo:  #1D252C
window.button.unfocus:          flat gradient vertical
window.button.unfocus.color:    #131920
window.button.unfocus.colorTo:  #131920
window.button.unfocus.picColor: #131920

window.grip.focus:              flat
window.grip.focus.color:        #131920
window.grip.focus.colorTo:      #131920
window.grip.unfocus:            flat
window.grip.unfocus.color:      #131920
window.grip.unfocus.colorTo:    #131920

window.handle.focus:            flat gradient vertical
window.handle.focus.color:      #131920
window.handle.focus.colorTo:    #131920
window.handle.unfocus:          flat gradient vertical
window.handle.unfocus.color:    #131920
window.handle.unfocus.colorTo:  #131920
window.handleWidth:             0

!menu.roundCorners:              <{Top|Bottom}{Left|Right}>
menu.itemHeight:                20
menu.bevelWidth:                1
menu.borderColor:               #131920
menu.borderWidth:               10
!menu.bullet:                    <{empty|square|triangle|diamond}>
menu.bullet: triangle
menu.bullet.position:           right
menu.frame:                     flat
menu.frame.color:               #131920
menu.frame.colorTo:             #131920
menu.frame.disableColor:        #B5B9BF
menu.frame.justify:             Left
menu.frame.textColor:           #B5B9BF
menu.hilite:                    flat gradient vertical
menu.hilite.color:              #1D252C
menu.hilite.colorTo:            #1D252C
menu.hilite.justify:            Left
menu.hilite.textColor:          #ECEFF4

menu.title:                     flat gradient vertical
menu.title.color:               #131920
menu.title.colorTo:             #131920
menu.title.textColor:           #ECEFF4
menu.title.justify:             Center
menu.titleHeight:               20


!toolbar.pixmap:                 <filename>
!toolbar.clock.pixmap:           <filename>
!toolbar.workspace.pixmap:       <filename>
!toolbar.iconbar.empty.pixmap:   <filename>
!toolbar.iconbar.focused.pixmap: yellow-black.png
!toolbar.iconbar.unfocused.pixmap: <filename>

!window.title.focus.pixmap:      <filename>
!window.title.unfocus.pixmap:    <filename>
!window.label.focus.pixmap:      title.png
!window.label.unfocus.pixmap:    title.png

!window.grip.focus.pixmap:       <filename>
!window.grip.unfocus.pixmap:     <filename>
!window.handle.focus.pixmap:     <filename>
!window.handle.unfocus.pixmap:   <filename>

!window.button.focus.pixmap:     <filename>
!window.button.unfocus.pixmap:   titlebar.png
!window.button.pressed.pixmap:   <filename>

!window.close.pixmap:            closefcs.png
!window.close.pressed.pixmap:    closeprs.png
!window.close.unfocus.pixmap:    <filename>

!window.maximize.pixmap:         maxfcs.png
!window.maximize.pressed.pixmap: <filename>
!window.maximize.unfocus.pixmap: <filename>

!window.iconify.pixmap:          minfcs.png
!window.iconify.pressed.pixmap: maximize-pressed.xpm
!window.iconify.unfocus.pixmap: <filename>

!window.shade.pixmap:            maximize-prelight.xpm
!window.shade.pressed.pixmap:    <filename>
!window.shade.unfocus.pixmap:    <filename>

!window.stick.pixmap:            maximize-prelight.xpm
!window.stick.pressed.pixmap:    <filename>
!window.stick.unfocus.pixmap:    <filename>

!window.stuck.pixmap:            <filename>
!window.stuck.unfocus.pixmap:    <filename>

!window.lhalf.pixmap:            <filename>
!window.lhalf.unfocus.pixmap:    <filename>
!window.rhalf.pixmap:            <filename>
!window.rhalf.unfocus.pixmap:    <filename>

!menu.frame.pixmap:              <filename>
!menu.hilight.pixmap             <filename>
!menu.title.pixmap:              <filename>

! pixmaps for menu bullets
!menu.selected.pixmap:           redtest.png
!menu.submenu.pixmap:            redtest.png
!menu.unselected.pixmap:         <filename>

! usually do not change background and slit

! Every style must specify the background option. If you don’t want your
! style to change the user’s background, then use ‘background: none’.
! background: centered|aspect|tiled|fullscreen|random|solid|gradient <texture>|mod|none|unset
! background.pixmap: <file or directory>
! background.color: <color>
! background.colorTo: <color>
! background.modX: <integer>
! background.modY: <integer>
! background: none

slit: flat
slit.bevelWidth: 0
slit.borderColor: #101010
slit.borderWidth: 0
slit.color:         #101010
slit.colorTo:       #101010
!slit.pixmap: <filename>
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