I have both -

make window managers treat the panel as a dock
reserve space and not covered by maximized windows

check and it works - max windows don't cover the panel.

Unchecking just reserve space results in a maximized window going behind the panel; unchecking just the dock option and space is still reserved.

I suspect that the reserved space option is a strut policy only - I have no idea what the difference between strut policy, dock - and apparently dockable - could be.

edit -

This is the goal -

Quotewould give me the behavior I want, which is to allow any window to cover the panel/dock.

one solution - apparently, lxpanel is coded to open in a window manager's (fluxbox anyway) top layer. You can edit the ~/.fluxbox/apps file (in your editor of choice since lxpanel does not have the window menu) and add something like -

[app] (name=panel) (class=lxpanel)
  [Layer]  {8}
[end]

the name and class I got from xprop; fluxbox layers are:

   2 - Above Dock

    4 - Dock

    6 - Top

    8 - Normal

    10 - Bottom

    12 - Desktop

put lxpanel on layer 8, 10, 12 to have it covered by maximized windows.

In a terminal -

xprop

the mouse cursor will become a cross; click on the window you want the properties, the output will be in the original terminal.

I don't think the ~/.fluxbox/slitlist is autogenerated like the ~/.fluxbox/apps file.

Use xprop to get the window class for lxpanel and edit the slitlist accordingly.

edit - nope, didn't work. I guess that the lxpanel configuration to be "treated as a dock" is different than being a dockable app.

@ew

short answer, yes.

fluxbox -> slit
openbox -> dock
pekwm -> harbour

All are special areas where dockable applications will reside and be anchored in place as well as viewable on all desktops. The slit cannot be moved freely and is not influenced by any manipulation to windows.

^ that's nice.

ew, use

own_window_type override

for any conky window, or

own_window_type dock

and place conky in the fluxbox slit (dock); then place the slit where you want the conky window to reside - great for single line conkies.

own_window no

would probably work as well since it is open windows getting iconified to show the dsktop.

note that -

own_window_type panel

as a conky configuration does not work in fluxbox.

If you use "own_window_type override" for conky, and then put lxpanel in the slit and configure it be seen as a dock (a box to check in it's configuration) may solve both your issues.

Your system tray will be trickier since it is also being handled by lxpanel and not the fluxbox system tray. Two options come to mind -

1. move the system tray to the lxpanel that has the launcher etc ... and use only one instance of lxpanel. Configure lxpanel to be a dock and have it reside in the fluxbox slit.

2. eliminate the lxapanel that contains the system tray and replace it with the fluxbox toolbar configured to contain only the fluxbox system tray - simple edit of the ~/.fluxbox/init file. The alpha can be set to full transparency, and if you want the toolbar set to autohide. The width can can be configured so it doesn't conflict with the conky.

fvwm; seeding latest iso

@lwfitz - and kde on arch no less; enjoy the ride.

dwm -

^ 2 days uptime - you run any server services on that computer?

I was planning on leaving my recent vsido install on to see how it goes. It's an NFS server, but just for simple file sharing.

dragonfly window manager - custom build/hack of dwm, similar to echinus:

some fluxbox

Doesn't happen to be muted does it? The setting for that isn't really obvious to me (maybe just the theme I'm using) on the pulseaudio settings gui.

Here is the conkyrc I'm using - it's the default, cleaned up a bit:

# .conkyrc - Edited from various examples across the 'net
# Used by VastOne on VSIDO
#
#

background yes
use_xft yes
xftfont LaudatioC:size=12.5
xftalpha 1.0
update_interval 2
total_run_times 0

### Window
own_window yes
own_window_colour 010101
own_window_type normal
own_window_transparent yes
own_window_title ConkySemi
own_window_class conky-semi
own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager

###
default_bar_size 240 6
double_buffer yes
minimum_size 1000 36
maximum_width 1000
draw_shades no
draw_outline no
draw_borders no
draw_graph_borders yes
border_width 1
border_inner_margin 0
border_outer_margin 0
if_up_strictness address
max_specials 1024
max_user_text 2048
text_buffer_size 2048
no_buffers yes
uppercase no
cpu_avg_samples 2
net_avg_samples 1
override_utf8_locale no
use_spacer right
short_units yes
pad_percents 1
top_name_width 12
imlib_cache_size 128

# Default colors and also border colors
default_color 0F0F0F
color0 000000
color1 FFFFFF
color2 FF0000
color3 FFFF00
color4 0000FF
color5 00FF00
color6 FFA500
color7 00C8FF
color8 FFFF00
color9 F40E00

default_shade_color color1
default_outline_color color0

alignment top_left
# alignment top_middle
# alignment bm
gap_x 4
gap_y 4

# lua_load ~/Conky/LUA/draw-bg.lua
# lua_draw_hook_pre draw_bg 10 0 0 0 0 0x000000 0.3

TEXT
${image $HOME/images/vsidoorb.png -s 38x38 -p 1,-1}${offset 56}${voffset 4}${color 73AEB4}Kernel:${color 7D8C93}${offset 8}$kernel${offset 12}${color 73AEB4}Uptime:${offset 8}${color lime green}${uptime_short}${offset 12}${color 73AEB4}CPU:${offset 8}${color 7D8C93}${cpu cpu0}%${offset 12}${color 73AEB4}MEM:${offset 8}${color 7D8C93}${memperc}%${offset 8}${mem}${offset 4}/${offset 4}${memmax}${offset 12}${color 73AEB4}HD:${offset 8}${color 7D8C93}${execpi 30 hddtemp -n /dev/sda}°C${offset 12}${color 73AEB4}NET:${offset 8}${color 7D8C93}${voffset 1}${downspeedgraph eth0 12,65 000000 ff0000}${offset 12}${upspeedgraph eth0 12,65 000000 00ff00}

and the comptonobx.conf

# Shadow
shadow = true;
no-dnd-shadow = true;
no-dock-shadow = true;
#clear-shadow = true;
shadow-radius = 7;
shadow-offset-x = -10;
shadow-offset-y = -10;
shadow-opacity = 0.7;
# shadow-red = 0.0;
# shadow-green = 0.0;
# shadow-blue = 0.0;
shadow-ignore-shaped = true;
shadow-exclude =  [ "n:e:xfce4-notifyd", "n:e:Notification", "n:a:ConkySemi", "n:a:panel" ];

# Opacity
menu-opacity = 1.0;
inactive-opacity = 0.9;
frame-opacity = 1.0;
inactive-opacity-override = true;
alpha-step = 0.06;

# Fading
fading = true;
fade-delta = 10;
fade-in-step = 0.08;
fade-out-step = 0.08;
# no-fading-openclose = true;

# Other
mark-wmwin-focused = true;
mark-ovredir-focused = true;
detect-rounded-corners = true;
detect-client-opacity = true;
#refresh-rate = 0;
#vsync = "none";
dbe = false;
paint-on-overlay = false;
sw-opti = false;

# Window type settings
wintypes:
{
  tooltip = { fade = true; shadow = false; opacity = 0.85; };
};


will make the obt files for the themes.

Yes - they are done; two additional themes inspired by some extant raptors -

Peregrine - a bluish-gray openbox theme:



RedTail - an orange-brown openbox theme:

muchas gracias. amigos

but this is linux after all so I tweaked it - changed the title bars to "raised splitvertical gradient" to bring it in line with the default SlicknessS gtk theme, standardized some 0bx font sizes -