More reason to suspect their motives:

https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/10/7/254

Political/corporate takeover tactics in open source?

I LIKE that wallpaper!

I think that they have done something like what you are working on over at LinuxBBQ, I know they have no love for login managers.
Maybe worth a look, why spend time reinventing the wheel?
The fish may be biting or............

Though I hate to disrupt a good House riff;

Has anyone considered switching to SLiM or some other login manager?

A big part of the problem with systemd is the devs are from the same place (company) as the Gnome3 devs.
The Gnome3 devs work very hard to make it impossible to make any change to Gnome3, YOU WILL USE IT THEIR WAY OR NOT AT ALL.

The following is shamelessly stolen from distrowatch.com, not my own:

31 • Just an init system (by RollMeAway on 2014-09-25 03:55:51 GMT from United States)
If systemd was "just an init system" many users could learn to accept it.
Problem is, with every new release it takes over more functions.
As stated last week, a recent blog rambles about plans to take over package
management for all distros. Guess that means no more *.deb or *.rpm pkgs.
Just *.systemd packages.

I relate it to finding a small red rash on the back of your hand.
It is minor, doesn't really hurt, so you kind of ignore it.
Then you discover the rash has covered your entire arm. Better do something about this.
The next morning you wake up and it has cover both arms and now shoulders.
Left unchecked it will take over your entire body.
Just like systemd is taking over our favorite operating systems.

45 • Some quotes about systemd (by RollMeAway on 2014-09-26 04:07:08 GMT from United States)
Poettering:
"it unifies system objects and their dependencies"
"One goal of systemd is to unify the dispersed Linux landscape"
"trying to gently push everybody towards the same set of basic configuration"
"we'd like to unify the most boring bits where there's really no point at all in being different"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd:
"While systemd has succeeded in its original goals, it's not stopping there".....
"systemd wants to control most, if not all, of the fundamental functional aspects of a Linux system"

So, continuing my analogy from post #31.
You find the simple rash has now covered your head, all your head and facial hair has fallen out.
Good thing is now you don't have to shave, or wash, cut, and comb your hair !
Now you discover most of the people around you all look like you do.

How do like your new system created by systemd ? (er I mean a simple rash)
Such a shame you cannot control it.

I vote for Thunar

Unless there is another file manager with custom actions

Quote from: jedi on September 06, 2014, 03:23:37 AM
Awesomeness!!! VSIDO 3!!!



Still the best there is...
And oh yeah, remember VSIDO is on IRC...



And yes, the email works!   

Are/have you made the "migraine theme" (style?) available somewhere?
The screenshots are beautiful.
I'm pretty light sensitive, even though I stopped having migraines after rolling an SUV.

My impression is that systemd would get a lot further if they told Kay S. to take a hike. He seems to have made a vocation of rubbing people the wrong way.

There is an older thread on the CrunchBang forum about using compiz standalone.
I have no idea how well it would work today, since compiz is so out of date, or if the cube would work.

But would compiz which has been described as a window manager work with Fluxbox which is a window manager?

"Interesting" things going on with the kernel devs and systemd devs:

https://plus.google.com/+TheodoreTso/posts/K7ijdmxJ8PF

https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/415

Oops, that is older than I thought 

The last time with Gnome3 I think was OpenBox Gnome session having Gnome3 as a hard dependency.

The argument that systemd is over complicated and controls too many other things does have some merit in relation to the classic *nix tradition of keeping it small and doing one thing well.

The personalities involved do bring some on themselves with their abrasive arrogance and attitude i.e. they cause problems and it is up to everyone else to fix it by changing their software, including the kernel devs.

I don't know Linus personally and even I know that won't fly.

Not going to work.

CrunchBang is Openbox
Openbox uses XML

Vsido is Fluxbox
Fluxbox uses plain text
XML not understood and ignored

http://fluxbox.org/help/man-fluxbox-keys.php

Vsido had Openbox, Xfce and i3 along with Fluxbox, December of last year all but Fluxbox were dropped.