Quotei spent about a decade with windoze, never touching the sides, never realising the importance of the freedom i didnt have, because the box seemed big enough. and when i hit the edge, i realised what a waste of my time it had been,extremely well said, apt, philosophical and picturesque. I wish I could have conceptualized the point as well as you have said it. Trade Mandrake/Ubuntu for Suse and could tell the same story. I don't think this is tilting at windmills though and I don't think I push myself nearly hard enough in this direction. Just some quick thoughts. Nice convo here.