Quote from: VastOne on February 15, 2014, 03:51:12 PM
Hi Charles and welcome to VSIDO, glad to have you...

Thanks, glad to be here...

QuoteI have a question that may or may not apply... Did you ever worry about anything with sysvinit and your setup?  And if no, why not?  Most likely because it just worked and you did not need to worry

Bingo...

QuoteSystemd as an init is pretty much the same... it just works and stays out of the way, not complex at all... and like with sysvinit, I have never had to change anything at all on all of my scripts, build functions, designs, layouts or anything to use systemd

I dropped it in and it works

Yeah, I guess the only real major thing is to wait until all of the packages (I'm still a gentoo user, - been considering  switch to something else, but in no hurry) I need and use are fully supported (unit files). From what I've been reading gentoo is almost there already, and many are already using systemd, but I just don't have the skills (or the time to learn how) to debug these things myself.

Anyway, I feel much better about the eventuality now, thanks in no small part to this thread.

Thanks again, and for the welcome...

I'd really like to thank everyone who participated in this thread, it has been the most rational discussion of the merits of systemd I've read since a couple of really bad ones on the gentoo list a while back, where there are/were many people who are rabidly against systemd.

I must say that this discussion has caused me to rethink my admittedly ignorant opposition, which was based solely on the opinions of others far more knowledgeable on the technical merits than I.

One of the main reasons I've been against systemd is simple: ianap (I am not a programmer, and my shell scripting skills are rudimentary at best, and would probably send most into fits of hysteria or running away screaming), I've seen many comments about how complex systemd is and that you need to be a skilled programmer to even consider using it. Heck, I don't even really understand openrc/udev, but at least I've never run into an unbootable system situation that required me to do any debugging after a system update.

I would really like to see a similar discussion comparing the pros/cons of systemd and openrc now.

Anyway - thanks again to all, now I guess its time to think about getting my hands dirty...

Charles