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VSIDO Support => General Support => Topic started by: zbreaker on April 03, 2015, 01:24:54 AM

Title: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: zbreaker on April 03, 2015, 01:24:54 AM
Ok..decided to re-install with the latest jedi release. Install went fine (tho I still prefer the old installer).
When invoking smxi to install  the Nvidia driver I am presented with a "fail" (on many occasions) of:

ERROR (196) The driver package.....failed to extract and has been deleted.

Anyone else experience this , and would it be a Debian or smxi problem?

Many thanks folks  8) 
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: PackRat on April 03, 2015, 03:38:21 PM
I've never had this particular error. Sounds like an issue with the nvidia driver itself, or the ftp site smxi uses to download the driver - the package appears to be corrupted on download.

Are you running the driver install from the option in the smxi menu? If so, try using the graphics driver install only command - log in as root and:

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# sgfxi
if you have never done it.

You can try:

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sgfxi -h
to list all the options to see if there is an option to just download the driver; see if you can get that far. Also, if you know what driver you need and can download it from nvidia, there may be an option on that list to have sgfxi install that driver.
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: zbreaker on April 03, 2015, 03:55:36 PM
Thanks PackRat.

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing myself. I've done this countless times previously using smxi with out a hitch.
I'll play around with it a bit more over the weekend and let you know my findings.
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: jedi on April 03, 2015, 08:43:46 PM
hey zbreaker, one more thing to try, would be to run it as root of course as PackRat suggested and also use the -U option to be sure you have the latest version of smxi.
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smxi -UI have had to reboot multiple times and install the driver multiple times in order to get it to work.  That hasn't happened in a long time though.  Keep us informed, and I'll go right now and give it a try myself.  Definitely sounds as if your getting a corrupted download somehow...

edit:  Just exited to tty1 and ran smxi as root and successfully updated to the new beta driver 349.12.  Worked the first time.  Hopefully your just seeing a corrupted download and re-running it will solve it.
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: VastOne on April 04, 2015, 04:21:02 AM
I have seen similar issues as this in the past...  Seems like time was th element and after a while it settled

I have also headed over to smxi irc (on oftc) and talked directly to h2

He has always been helpful ...
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: zbreaker on April 04, 2015, 09:37:36 PM
General weirdness. I think it is indeed download problems in part. When invoking (as root) sgfxi it complains of wget errors in trying to update the script.
After a general fail, as in first post, using graphics option in smxi, /var/log/sgfi shows me that the script complains about not having a .run file to process. Been having some other minor things in general with the new install. I'm actually thinking that my .iso file might have been a bit corrupted. Going to re-download and install fresh after verifying
checksum and start he process again. Will keep you all posted. Oh, and a Happy Easter & Passover to those who celebrate them  8)
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: zbreaker on April 22, 2015, 01:21:09 AM
Ok..think I've found the answer.

Tried installing the last 3 32bit builds of VSIDO & then install Nvidia driver via smxi with fail as per original post.
Just installed latest 64bit VSIDO & smxi installs Nvidia driver without issue. Perhaps an issue with the 32bit iso?
Guessing here as my original hardware (System 76) is the same since I converted to VSIDO a while ago.
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: VastOne on April 22, 2015, 03:39:48 AM
I know of nothing different between the two architects... I would head over to the #smxi channel on the OFTC network and ask h2 if there are known issues with the 32 bit package and installer.  I cannot place anything on VSIDO as being the issue...
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: Snap on April 22, 2015, 05:40:47 AM
Just a blind shoot. I keep wondering if it has to do with the specific hardware. I've never been able to install the drivers via smxi (whatever the distro) in my particular machine having an ancient Quadro FX1500 GPU. They install if done manually, but never with smxi. No issues with any other machines I've tried. For some reason my GPU doesn't like smxi. I wonder if this happens to be the same kind of problem.
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: VastOne on April 22, 2015, 05:46:07 AM
^ I have heard that same story several times from users everywhere I have been... as great as smxi is, it is not the fix-all for everyone

@zbreaker

Ever try to manually install the drivers on the x32?
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: PackRat on April 22, 2015, 10:39:03 AM
What modle is your video card zbreaker?

I took a quick look at the smxi site to see if they had dropped support for 32 bit and didn't find anything.

If your card is old, nvidia may have stooped development of the driver so it will not install with the newer kernels. You may be able to force the driver install with:

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sgfxi -f
that will cause smxi to install a kernel patch for your driver.
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: zbreaker on April 22, 2015, 12:54:14 PM
What modle is your video card zbreaker?

I took a quick look at the smxi site to see if they had dropped support for 32 bit and didn't find anything.

If your card is old, nvidia may have stooped development of the driver so it will not install with the newer kernels. You may be able to force the driver install with:

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sgfxi -f
that will cause smxi to install a kernel patch for your driver.

1 GB nVidia GeForce GTX650 with 384 CUDA cores
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: PackRat on April 22, 2015, 01:56:19 PM
Still supported - latest release April 7.

Looks like you're in the same boat as snap and need a manual install.
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: zbreaker on April 22, 2015, 02:25:28 PM
Will give it a shot.....or perhaps just stay 64 bit.

Anyone ever try multilib with VSIDO?
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: jedi on April 22, 2015, 09:59:31 PM
aye, I have multilib installed now so Steam will run.  I know it has nothing to do with Nvidia.  You should have no problems with that GTX650 though, as it is still a supported card...

edit; Guess PackRat already stated that!  :-X
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: zbreaker on May 19, 2015, 01:36:23 AM
Ok..installed the latest 32-bit build...same results as OP when trying to install Nvidia drivers via smxi/sgfxi. As an experiment, installed latest Debian 8 to same disk/partitions as used for the VSIDO installs, and smxi installed the driver flawlessly. Thinking a sid issue? Will try manual install in a day or two.
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: jedi on May 19, 2015, 02:07:29 AM
This may also be an issue between the 4.0 Kernel and smxi?  When I first compiled 4.0 in VSIDO I had some issues that were of my own making and which I did get resolved.  All on 64bit though, and a GTX 660M 2Gb Nvidia card.  I know at one point I did have to manually install the Nvidia driver as smxi just would not do it.  (nor sgfxi)
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: dizzie on May 19, 2015, 10:53:36 AM
If your card is old/semi-old, you can only use legacy drivers (304xx). In smxi it's called "Antique"  :o
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: jedi on May 19, 2015, 11:18:18 AM
If your card is old/semi-old, you can only use legacy drivers (304xx). In smxi it's called "Antique"  :o
Neither one of those cards is considered old.  I'm currently using 349.16, and zbreaker should be able to as well.  The only difference between zbreaker and I, is the architecture.  (32bit vs 64bit)
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: dizzie on May 19, 2015, 11:57:05 AM
349.16 gives me a black screen (750ti GTX) 340.76 works  8)
Title: Re: Nvidia driver problem
Post by: jedi on May 19, 2015, 12:01:41 PM
Just ran smxi, used it to dist-upgrade, install the newest Kernel (to replace the 4.0 that I had compiled), continued to the graphics and tried to install the latest beta driver.  Was told the latest driver was 352.xx and there was no beta driver for my card available at the moment.  Told it to go ahead and was informed I have an xorg version that is to old.  (1.17.1? maybe?)  Anyway, reran it and chose current nvidia driver and it reinstalled the 349.16 driver just fine.
I will try to get some answers from 'h2' in the #smxi IRC channel later today.  Right now need sleep! :)
I did verify that I can still use Steam and play my favorite game, The Talos Principle.
Check back in a few hours, I'll see what I can do...