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Title: Best update procedures <SOLVED>
Post by: lwfitz on June 29, 2013, 05:18:58 PM
Just a quick question......

What are the best update habits for SID?

I have been updating with

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sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
once a week or so and seem to have  around 125 updates each week. Is once a week often enough to update? Or to often (if possible)?

Also is dist-upgrade still the recommended update command?

Thanks guys
Title: Re: Best update procedures
Post by: jst_joe on June 29, 2013, 05:59:02 PM
I use smxi which does dist-upgrade but have been running it every couple of days.
It seems that upgrades are coming more frequently now that Wheezy has become stable.
Title: Re: Best update procedures
Post by: VastOne on June 30, 2013, 02:32:27 AM
Daily lwfitz, it is the only choice....

I have been running SID for a long time (5 years) and the absolute best thing you can do is daily updates to avoid massive updates and those dreaded dependency breakdowns

This is the main reason why I included aliases so that users can easily do them daily
Title: Re: Best update procedures
Post by: blaze on June 30, 2013, 07:35:25 AM
If there is a massive amount of stuff when I want to do a dist-upgrade, is it then better to do an upgrade first, and the dist-upgrade after that?
Title: Re: Best update procedures
Post by: VastOne on June 30, 2013, 04:44:46 PM
Good question blaze, but since I only use dist-upgrade I am not sure which is better
Title: Re: Best update procedures
Post by: lwfitz on June 30, 2013, 05:20:42 PM
@ VastOne and jst_joe

Thanks guys. For safety sake Ill start updating daily  :)

@ Blaze

Thats a great question. Seems like that could really limit breakage or dependency issues.
Title: Re: Best update procedures
Post by: hinto on July 01, 2013, 12:28:47 AM
If you're tracking SID, you always want to do a dist-upgrade and not an upgrade.  You can think of an upgrade in SID like a brake in an ice storm.  Treat both like they don't exist.  ;)
-Hinto
Title: Re: Best update procedures
Post by: VastOne on July 01, 2013, 01:05:04 AM
^ Perfectly said...  ;D
Title: Re: Best update procedures
Post by: blaze on July 01, 2013, 06:13:51 AM
ok, but if I am on lets say a 3.7.2 kernel and with a dist- upgrade will get a 3.9.8 kernel, is it still better to just do a dist-upgrade, and not an upgrade first, and after that do a dist-upgrade, I am talking massive upgrade with maybe 600 - 700 package upgrades, + 60 - 80 of new package installs?  and is it possible to do a sort of "safe upgrade" with apt-get, like you can do with aptitude?
Title: Re: Best update procedures
Post by: hinto on July 01, 2013, 11:29:11 AM
On SID, you always want to do a dist-upgrade.
-Hinto
Title: Re: Best update procedures
Post by: lwfitz on July 02, 2013, 08:52:01 PM
If you're tracking SID, you always want to do a dist-upgrade and not an upgrade.  You can think of an upgrade in SID like a brake in an ice storm.  Treat both like they don't exist.  ;)
-Hinto


 :D

Perfect, thanks Hinto.

Title: Re: Best update procedures
Post by: hinto on July 02, 2013, 10:12:59 PM
I ran a single install of Kanotix, when it was based on SID, for about 6 years using the h2 scripts, which are now called smxi.
-H