First look at Oracle's Linux... running it in a VM on VSIDO, yum and gnome2 on a Btrfs file system
(http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/screenshot-06242013-033509pm.php) (http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-06242013-033509pm.php)
Not bad...
Not really a true Distro Hopper, but I do like to play! VSIDO is my personal favorite so I have played with these two using VirtualBox.
Fedora 18 64 bit;
(http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/screenshot-06242013-080835pm.png) (http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-06242013-080835pm.php)
Arch Linux 64 bit:
(http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/screenshot-06242013-081132pm.png) (http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-06242013-081132pm.php)
I've been trying to download the Oracle Linux release, but not every site is as well run as this one. I can't seem to get it to download! Oh well...
^ Nice... I think you would be disappointed with Oracle Linux... it was like stepping back to 3 years ago...
What do you think of Arch and Fedora?
Oracle Linux sucked! Waste of dl time. Deleted.
I like Arch and Fedora is pretty slick too. Of course nothing compares to VSIDO!!!!
I get amazed everytime I get here. Now i've seen it all... Jedi and Arch ???
Dizzie, you gotta get back here. We miss you and your wit. Not to mention the coffee and cutting! Here's hoping your return is imminent!
And oh yeah, whats not to like about Arch?
Quote from: jedi on June 26, 2013, 07:20:17 AM
And oh yeah, whats not to like about Arch?
Now there's a loaded question. :D
@vastone - So Oracle has released a RedHat based distro; have you tried CentOS so you can compare the two? I read through the Oracle site, didn't see any real advantage.
Going to date myself a bit - back in the day, I checked out Sun's linux release - based on Suse - they really screwed the pooch with that one; I never understood why they didn't release a Solaris for the desktop (what project Indiana is today, I suppose). I ran Soloaris 10 for about a year and it was actually pretty smooth.
Quote from: jedi on June 26, 2013, 07:20:17 AM
dizzie, you gotta get back here. We miss you and your wit. Not to mention the coffee and cutting! Here's hoping your return is imminent!
That bad, or shit-just-hit-the-fan bad? :D
My vac starts in 10 days ish, and i have 30 days off work, so hell yes I will be back! :)
^ about time, you bastard! :-*
But I have been busy doing this
(http://s11.postimg.org/gzb9gbeqn/IMG_0594.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gzb9gbeqn/)
New hardware too :
i5-3570k
GF 640
8GB DDR3
500 GB HDD
Left is for clothes
Right is for hardware and etc
Totalprice for both + deskplate = $232
Just need to finish building the other PC (FX-6300)
Until then, have a grand day all :D
^ I see no refrigerator off any kind! What gives?
:D :D
Looks good mate!
Coffee needs no refrigeration!
Quote from: jedi on July 01, 2013, 02:58:13 PM
Coffee needs no refrigeration!
Bwahahah! NICE Jedi :D
Quote from: dizzieJust need to finish building the other PC (FX-6300)
Just have to out do me dont you? ::) You take a 6 month vacation and now you show up without cake? :D
Quote from: lwfitz on July 02, 2013, 08:55:53 PM
Quote from: dizzieJust need to finish building the other PC (FX-6300)
Just have to out do me dont you? ::) You take a 6 month vacation and now you show up without cake? :D
(http://s23.postimg.org/kj5bqg5iv/chocolate_birth_day_cake.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/kj5bqg5iv/)
Theres your cake :D and yes I do :)
I like my i5-3750 the most, hehe its fast as hell 8)
Awesome Jessie Dremora 8)
(http://s19.postimg.org/4me02otrj/Screenshot_110813_19_34_21.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4me02otrj/)
A distrolette I am working on...alpha mode!
https://sourceforge.net/projects/awesomejessie/?source=navbar (https://sourceforge.net/projects/awesomejessie/?source=navbar)
...featuring the awesome themes of copycat-killer;
https://github.com/copycat-killer/awesome-copycats (https://github.com/copycat-killer/awesome-copycats)
Very cool mrneilypops!
Release date?
Hmm...how long is a piece of string?
I would think I should have something quite stable by the end of the year.
Please give it a try and tell me what you think so far...
It has the refracta installer included if you have a VM to give it a whirl.
^ Loaded into a VM now... I get grub and select Awesome jessie but I am presented with a tty1 login screen
Whats the login and pw?
Edit -
found it in your readme on SF
live
live
Thanks
Edit -
I logged in and did a startx and I am into Awesome
Edit -
I tried running gparted from the menu, I always setup my partitions before the installer. It would not start from the menu. It started fine from terminal and from within the installer, just wanted you to know
@ mrneilypops
I have tried your version of the refracta installer and it worked as it should. When I tested it, it did not allow me to create a new user.
Did you alter the installer at all? If not, can you link me the version you have?
Thanks
Hey VastOne,
Thanks for the testing, I really appreciate your feedback on my project. 8)
I will investigate gparted....
As for the installer I will check with Mr.Refracta...
Thanks for your patience and remembering that this is project is 'alpha' for me and the distrolette.
I will try and keep you updated my friend. ;)
EDIT: I thought about gparted...common problem...gparted appears in the menu but does not start on many different distros..
EDIT: i have not altered the installer as of yet...
The only answer I have is;
gksu gparted
Quote from: mrneilypops on August 11, 2013, 06:47:24 PM
Awesome Jessie Dremora 8)
A distrolette I am working on...alpha mode!
...featuring the awesome themes of copycat-killer;
mrneilypops...
Installed your Alpha distrolette and have decided to give the tilers another chance. The install went fine, but personally I think a newer user (which quite possibly isn't even your intended target group) would be a bit overwhelmed.
It installed for me without any problems/troubles what so ever. I did it of course in a VM using VirtualBox. So far you have a nice looking distrolette as you call it working pretty great in its Alpha stage! Nice work. Including the copycat themes was a real plus...
This message was brought to you from Awesome Jessie Dremora using Iceweasel for the browser!
@Jedi
You are my hero! 8)
Thanks so much for the testing and yes the distrolette is not intended for new users.
I am an awesome fanboy but still learning and this project is part of the process.
@Vastone
Thanks for your valued input also 8)
This might help in creating a new user;
http://refracta.freeforums.org/post2779.html#p2779 (http://refracta.freeforums.org/post2779.html#p2779)
^ Thanks...
Quote from: mrneilypops on August 11, 2013, 06:47:24 PM
Awesome Jessie Dremora 8)
(http://s19.postimg.org/4me02otrj/Screenshot_110813_19_34_21.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4me02otrj/)
A distrolette I am working on...alpha mode!
https://sourceforge.net/projects/awesomejessie/?source=navbar (https://sourceforge.net/projects/awesomejessie/?source=navbar)
...featuring the awesome themes of copycat-killer;
https://github.com/copycat-killer/awesome-copycats (https://github.com/copycat-killer/awesome-copycats)
Is it 32 bit or 64 bit ?
There is no indication on any of your sourceforge projects.
New release of Puppy Linux - (http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00293)
Been a while. My favorite rescue distro now comes in 64-bit; based on Slackware 14.1 -
(http://en.zimagez.com/miniature/screenshot161517.png) (http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot161517.php)
Slackware? They moved from ubuntu? Interesting. Thanks for sharing, Ratman.
Quote from: Snap on November 19, 2015, 08:52:27 AM
Slackware? They moved from ubuntu? Interesting. Thanks for sharing, Ratman.
Hi there Snap,
Puppy linux is built using binary packages from another distributions. This is done using a build tool called 'Woof'. What this means is that you can built your own version of Puppy linux using Woof. Currently Woof supports Ubuntu, Debian, Slackware, Arch, T2, Mageia and of-course Puppy. Ubuntu and Slackware based versions are official versions but there are countless other spins-respins out there developed by community. Here is a useful link,
Puppy Derivatives (http://murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php?f=35&sid=52cea77da39612957fc0b2672c5dfa69)
Cheers!!!
Thanks for clarifying, hackerdefo. Puppy has been always a bit confusing to me. It's like a thousand different spins out there. Also in my few tries with Puppy the rox thing put me away soon. Cannot get used to it. That's the reason why I'm never too tempted besides I find it quite interesting.
Try this pup,
http://smokey01.com/carolina/isos/lina-1.3.iso
I hope you'll like it.
Cheers!!!
Downloading. Thanks ;)
Quote from: hakerdefo on November 23, 2015, 10:36:05 AM
Try this pup,
http://smokey01.com/carolina/isos/lina-1.3.iso
I hope you'll like it.
Cheers!!!
that's a nice puppy build.
Do you know if the puppy frisbee network manager has been ported, or is otherwise available for, debian-based systems?
You can give a shot at compiling it. Here are the required sources,
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=37535
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=37533
You'll also need 'wpasupplicant' and 'dhcpcd' installed. Let us know if it compiles and works. And yes modify the frisbee source to use the notification application of your choice it defaults to 'xpupsay' which is another puppy specific thing. According to jemimah, author of frisbee, frisbee could be modified to use the splash program of choice.
Cheers!!!
I'll give that a shot - maybe later this weekend. American holiday of Thanksgiving today, then a fishing trip.
Speaking of Slackware, they've come out with a live version. You can check it out without the need to install.
http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/slackware-live-edition/
And it appears Slackware has moved to eudev - no systemd. (http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=126148) First time I have read/seen anything official in that regard. Appears they will still go with the BSD-style init, but openrc will be an option.
...Mayhap I can find time to get openrc as an alternative for VSIDO
^ maybe a HowTo if anyone wants to switch. I can see where making a switch will send you to Dependency Hell next time you try an upgrade.
I wonder if Slackware is getting close to a release; 14.1 is just over 2 years old now. I think Patrick V. had some health issues which may have slowed things down, but maybe a Slackware 15.0 this spring (keeping fingers crossed).
So long as sysvinit is alive and well it will be doable. I just switched over a test x32 build to openrc and sysvinit all booted well without issues
The interesting thing is the network right now.. it still is using the systemd created enp0s3 interface which may be all right in itself, just a different standard than wlan0 and eth0
I am sure I can change back to those standards now and would have to fix a few scripts but it looks very doable
Got a fully functional x32 with network interfaces back to eth0 and wlan0 and the vsido-exit scripts working...
very interesting indeed, no systemd and full upgrades and builds
all seems fine
I would love to see a systemd free Vsido. That's only my own wish, but I'm a dreamer.
We should start a conversation on it... I want to hear opinions again about this subject
I made a live installable iso based on Sid, would you guys care to have a look? http://sourceforge.net/projects/nelum-os/
Whew... 1.8 gig? That is a huge one... Will dload it a bit later to look at it
What installer? What build method? Do you not have an x64 machine? Using V-Box you can build using x64 and x32
Quote from: VastOne on January 11, 2016, 08:15:24 PM
Whew... 1.8 gig? That is a huge one... Will dload it a bit later to look at it
What installer? What build method? Do you not have an x64 machine? Using V-Box you can build using x64 and x32
1.7 gig because, 1) it has some extra apps, 2) it is squashed by gz, rather than xz. With xz, it would be 1,4 gig. Build using a simple method; clearing up username, hostname, localtime etc from /etc, clearing up unnecessary files from /var, leaving /dev, /home, media, /mnt, /proc, /run, /sys and squashing the rest. Installer is adapted lmde one.
My machine is 64bit. This 32 bit install was there for a long time, starting from wheezy, moved to sid.
As one who also uses Gentoo.. the developers there have led the way in the past to OpenRC.
If Debian's future OSes make the procedures more difficult to cling to a sysVinit system there is the OpenRC option. I have used systemd with arch and it is at least OK. I just didn't see the need for the move.
Take a look here http://systemd-free.org/
There you will read one method for switching a systemd to an OpenRC. While some might not to actually proceed down that road what can learn is of interest.
As to speed.. many of us have already seen this side by side boot video ..Systemd vs OpenRC
About speeds, systemd shuts down faster than anything else. No doubts. But at boot it depends a lot on specific systems, what and how many services you launch, the hardware, etc... Simple systems (the ones I tend to use) into decently powerful machines don't use to see a specially noticeable improvement with parallelization. I've tested some systems with all equal excepting inits. Even the plain sysvinit with no OpenRC is very fast and not far behind systemd. Only slightly slower. For complex systems that's a different story. systemd and/or parallelization in general can speed up booting times a lot.
In my particular case booting speeds are not relevant. Doesn't make a significative difference whatever the init system you use. At least the ones I've tried. There are plenty available not specially known.
I don't define systemd shutdown as a shutdown...
It is more a Crash :D
which is why it is so fast... just a bit of kidding..
My primary dislike of systemd as writer of scripts is that sysvinit uses easily editable shell scripts in /etc for config, while systemd uses binary modules..
If you don't need or like to modify system scripts to meet your needs then a user won't car much about the differences..
Other then that .. using those binary files and calling them at the cli than systemd works just fine for most purposes.
QuoteMy primary dislike of systemd as writer of scripts is that sysvinit uses easily editable shell scripts in /etc for config, while systemd uses binary modules..
In fact all inits I know use editable scripts excepting systemd. But systemd is not an init system. It stopped being one a while ago. It's a nested system controller which also happens to have an init embedded. That's my primary dislike (independently or how good or bad it can work).