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Title: Firefox
Post by: Dodge Ram on May 26, 2013, 01:26:40 PM
I have been running iceweasel and have been running into some web site problems such as java not enabled. I look in the preferences and it is enabled. I have tried a few times to get firefox 21.0 working and I just cannot seem to get it to work. Can anyone tell me how to get the latest Firefox into the Software Sources so I can install it in the terminal? Thanks
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: VastOne on May 26, 2013, 01:31:23 PM
You can not do that with a Debian based system due to the branding issues that FF and Debian agreed on which keeps FF out of Debian repos

What you can do is download the version you want and extract it and run it... there are several How To's on getting this done, including several on #!
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: VastOne on May 26, 2013, 01:34:54 PM
Here is one good link (http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=271769)
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: VastOne on May 26, 2013, 01:39:03 PM
These issues with Iceweasel are not NoScript/Adblock or any other plugin related are they?

Can you post some of the links you are having issues with so I can test them?
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: Dodge Ram on May 26, 2013, 02:18:14 PM
It was videos and some music download links and of course I can't find them now.
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: lwfitz on May 26, 2013, 04:00:06 PM
But if you absolutely NEED Firefox you can add it using Mints Repos:

Add

deb http://packages.linuxmint.com debian import

to /etc/apt/sources.list


Run

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install firefox






Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: VastOne on May 26, 2013, 04:02:19 PM
^ That is possible but will most likely remove a boatload of SID packages in the process... You would need to be very careful with pinning it correctly to get it to not remove things..

Have you done this on VSIDO lwfitz?
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: jedi on May 26, 2013, 08:31:58 PM
In "all" my dealings with Iceweasel, especially the ones with the java needing to be enabled messages, it has always "100%" of the time been Noscript or Adblock.  Both of which can be disabled temporarily or permanently depending on the website your at, and whether or not you personally "trust" the site your on.  I generally disable it for that page and it corrects all issues.  However, I'm a little 'trusting' of Linux in that it is pretty reliably safe when it comes to malware and spyware and such.  So, that said, I generally disable both for the site that is giving me that message and enjoy what I went there to enjoy.  TPB is a prime example of this!
Now back out to continue building my "Ark" as we are being drowned in a deluge of biblical proportion up here...
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: VastOne on May 26, 2013, 08:34:38 PM
My philosophy with NoScript is to only use Temporarily allow all this page until I trust the site completely
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: jedi on May 26, 2013, 08:40:53 PM
Quote from: VastOne on May 26, 2013, 08:34:38 PM
My philosophy with NoScript is to only use Temporarily allow all this page until I trust the site completely

Your philosophy is the correct one and the one that I also practice and should have clearly mentioned in my post!  Both are easily accomplished simply clicking the the little icons at the bottom of the Iceweasel browser window.
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: Dodge Ram on May 26, 2013, 10:44:36 PM
Quote from: VastOne on May 26, 2013, 01:39:03 PM
These issues with Iceweasel are not NoScript/Adblock or any other plugin related are they?

Can you post some of the links you are having issues with so I can test them?

http://kingrealtycountry.com/ (http://kingrealtycountry.com/)     I cannot fill in the search fields
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: VastOne on May 26, 2013, 10:53:27 PM
I could not either until I told NoScript to Temporarily allow all this page

Once I did that, I could enter them all
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: lwfitz on May 26, 2013, 11:24:28 PM
Quote from: VastOne on May 26, 2013, 04:02:19 PM
^ That is possible but will most likely remove a boatload of SID packages in the process... You would need to be very careful with pinning it correctly to get it to not remove things..

Have you done this on VSIDO lwfitz?



Yeah I did it and it worked perfect. I didnt install mints key so I got the gpg key error when I updated apt but as far as the install it all went perfect and nothing was removed that I remember.
Ill switch machines and check
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: VastOne on May 26, 2013, 11:25:27 PM
^ Excellent to hear that... thanks for reporting it
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: lwfitz on May 26, 2013, 11:39:22 PM
After adding the mind repo to my source list, this is the output when installing firefox

luke@VSIDO-FX:~$ sudo apt-get install firefox
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  firefox-l10n-en-us
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  firefox firefox-l10n-en-us
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 327 not upgraded.
Need to get 27.9 MB of archives.
After this operation, 56.6 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?



Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: Dodge Ram on May 27, 2013, 12:56:45 PM
This is what I found out. I followed Iwfitz's instructions and everything installed ok. In the menu list it shows firefox title with Icewasel icon. Start Firefox it looks the exactly the same as icewasel.The only difference is at the very top it says Firefox in the header. With that being said, I am at a crossroad. I could try to uninstall both and try to install firefox alone, or, is there any real problem with leaving  NoScript allowed all the time?
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: VastOne on May 27, 2013, 01:11:57 PM
NoScript is a condom... It protects you as long as it is used correctly... you can completely disable it and remove it from Iceweasel if you want to or you can get used to right clicking on the S every time you go to a site you trust and selecting Allow All This Page... that saves it for that site always

NoScript and AdBlockPlus are the only add ons I swear by and use everywhere... but it is your choice
Title: Re: Firefox
Post by: Dodge Ram on May 27, 2013, 01:20:10 PM
Thank you very much