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Title: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: jedi on April 05, 2013, 02:28:28 AM
Hey all, you'll have to bear with me, as it's been a long time since I haven't relied on Bumbebee.  Installed perfect, got all the programs installed, restored /home from bu, and am enjoying it.

My resolution says it's at 1920x1080.  However it looks like, when I open things like 'Terminal', that it's more like 1024x768.  Sorry I don't really know how to even explain it.  Makes it hard to ask for help!  Here's what it looks like for a better explanation.  A pic is worth a thousand words right?  The second pic is what it looked like when I used Bumblebee.  On the right in the top pic you can see the conky which I haven't changed, used to fit perfectly, is now acting like i tweaked it for a different size resolution.  Can this be fixed?

(http://en.zimagez.com/miniature/oversizeddt.png) (http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/oversizeddt.php)

(http://en.zimagez.com/miniature/normal1168.png) (http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/normal1168.php)

So as you can see, quite a difference, and the fonts in the window bar are too big to fit.  I must have done something wrong, and I've not been able to fix it.  (is it even broke?)  Graphics are way better with a dedicated card!!!

Also when I logout, it just goes to a blinking cursor.  I can ctrl-alt-F1-6 and get to tty and login, however it errors out if I try to "startx" and ctrl-alt-F7 is just a blinking cursor of course.  Video card is an Nvidia GTX 660M with 2Gb GDDR5.  Installed driver version is 313.30 current.  I'm currently on Kernel 3.8-trunk-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.8.5-1~experimental.1 x86_64.  Below is 'inxi -F'.  More info on request...

jed@jedsdesk:~$ inxi -F
System:    Host: jedsdesk Kernel: 3.8-trunk-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.5 Distro: VSIDO
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: G55VW version: 1.0 Bios: American Megatrends version: G55VW.217 date: 11/05/2012
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i7-3630QM CPU (-HT-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx)
           Clock Speeds: 1: 2401.00 MHz 2: 1200.00 MHz 3: 1200.00 MHz 4: 1200.00 MHz 5: 1200.00 MHz 6: 2401.00 MHz 7: 1200.00 MHz 8: 1600.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA Device 0fd4 X.Org: 1.12.4 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@59.9hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce GTX 660M/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 313.30
Audio:     Card-1: Intel 7 Series/C210 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2: NVIDIA Device 0e1b driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.8-trunk-amd64
Network:   Card-1: Atheros AR8151 v2.0 Gigabit Ethernet driver: atl1c
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 08:60:6e:08:5e:d0
           Card-2: Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter driver: ath9k
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: dc:85:de:9f:42:8d
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 740.2GB (5.4% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: MKNSSDAT240GB size: 240.1GB
           2: id: /dev/sdb model: Hitachi_HTS72755 size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID: / size: 22G used: 11G (52%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 119G used: 27G (24%) fs: ext4
           ID: swap-1 size: 18.81GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 41C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 175 Uptime: 21 min Memory: 806.9/16039.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.8.45
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: Sector11 on April 05, 2013, 03:13:39 AM
I'm not 100% sure but I thing you have to reduce the "system" font size to something a bit smaller.

Not sure how to that at the moment ... heading for bed soon, If nothing else I'll log into Xfce4 tomorrow and check there.

inxi says you are at 1920x1080 that must be something on a laptop screen - size in inches?
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: jedi on April 05, 2013, 03:49:22 AM
15.6" screen...
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: Sector11 on April 05, 2013, 01:48:48 PM
OK, I'm in XFCE4 ...

Settings » Settings manager » Appearance » Fonts
- - - That is a system wide font change.

Xfce4-terminal - Right-click on the open window:
Preferences » Appearance » Font
- - - settings for the terminal.

See if that helps.

(http://i.imgur.com/LgI74WQl.png) (http://imgur.com/LgI74WQ)

15.6" for a lappy is a nice size.  :D

RE: Blinking cursor on logout ... do you get the same if you use OpenBox or FluxBox?
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: jedi on April 05, 2013, 09:02:09 PM
Yes same on all logouts.  For the fonts to look the same as it did on the past two previous 15.6" 1920x1080 resolution screens, I have to change it to less than a size 8 or so from 13 which is default.  This has never been the case before on any VSIDO install.  I've also reinstalled the 313.30 nvidia driver, as well as reverted back to the 310.44 nvidia driver.  Nothing changes.  Also still have the logout issues.  I can tty and then do a 'sudo lightdm restart' and get back to the login screen.  Just puzzled as to why, for instance, the conky I was using on the 2 previous 15.6" 1920x1080 resolution lappys now wont fit on the same size screen.
Another for instance, if I open 'medit' and then click on the 'open' button to open a file, the screen that opens up is so big I can't see the buttons at the bottom without re-sizing the 'open-screen' to select the file.  Sorry if I'm not explaining this well.  I'm more than happy to answer any questions to make this clearer.  The aforementioned goes for any app where I click on the 'open file' part of it.  The following screen is huge.  It's like I had a 1920x1080 res screen before, and now, for some reason my apps all think I've switched to an 800x600 res screen.  Annoying...
Any advice/help appreciated.   :(
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: Sector11 on April 05, 2013, 09:24:50 PM
OK, this is officially way beyond anything I might be able to do.

I have never had a laptop ... and never had these problems.
What about installing and older ISO?  Do you have one?

I have:
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: jedi on April 05, 2013, 09:33:20 PM
Thanks Sector11, I have several 'other' VSIDO iso's to pick from myself as well.  I think dating back to the beginning of Jan.

Yep a real puzzler, and haven't been able to even come close to figuring it out.  The only difference between the last 3 laptops, and my configs, is the addition of the "dedicated" Nvidia graphics.  Before, on the previous 2 laptops, they had Nvidia's Optimus (hybrid Nvidia/Intel graphics setup) technology.

Thats really the only difference.  Oh well...
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: Sector11 on April 05, 2013, 09:40:11 PM
You'll get it ... have faith!   ;)
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: jefsview on April 06, 2013, 06:37:05 AM
This is probably stupid question, but did you go into Nvidia Settings and check what the resolution was in there? Did you check your xorg.conf (or Nvidia.conf) under /etc/X11? Nvidia Settings has an "auto-detect" fuction you can use, or you can enter it manually through the gui or in the .conf file.

I've don't have a laptop, but I've never had an issue with Nvidia not setting my screen resolution properly. Nouveau, on the other hand, isn't as sharp for detection.

Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: jedi on April 06, 2013, 06:48:13 AM
Yes good call jefsview, but already done...  Neither place is showing anything wrong as well as the nvidia control panel...  I'm not giving up!!!!   I've got some of it solved, and am now looking at mostly just the blinking cursor thing.  Thanks though for the input, and just so you know, I'm the only one around here with "stupid" questions!
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: Sector11 on April 06, 2013, 01:34:00 PM
@ jedi


Thanks though for the input, and just so you know, I'm the only one around here with "stupid" questions!



No no no no no no NOT True!
I'm full of them!
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: jefsview on April 06, 2013, 05:19:38 PM
he-he. We all sometimes miss the obvious, mainly do to frustration when things don't work. I've ruined many an install by doing that.

Anyway, how did you install the Nvidia drivers? Did you use SMXI/SGFXI or did you use use Synaptic/APT. If using Apt,did you blacklist the Nouveau driver?

The blinking cursor usually means the driver module isn't loading...

Inxi states that you have Xorg 1.12 -- did you try upgrading to 1.13?

-- Jeff
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: jedi on April 10, 2013, 03:42:35 AM
Stupid question #4,341;  How do I upgrade the xorg to 1.13 or 1.14?  See what you started jefsview!
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: jefsview on April 10, 2013, 06:18:25 AM
@jedi -- sorry for that :)

It looks like Xorg 1.14 isn't available yet in SID. I thought it was, but got it confused with my Manjaro (Arch) partitions, which use 1.14. I went to check after I posted that reply and found that I was in error. My bad.

I thought that you had, perhaps, fixed the problem since you hadn't replied and was posting some nice scrots in that thread over there.

Nvidia just released a new Beta driver for Linux with improved Optimus support. You might want to use sgfxi and see if that helps.
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: jedi on April 10, 2013, 06:41:36 AM
thank god i no longer have to rely on Optimus!  This new lappy has a dedicated GTX 660M with 2Gb of GDDR5 RAM.  No hybrid-graphics here my friend.  First time in a long time!  (3 years to be exact!)
The blinking cursor isn't that big a deal to me as I hardly ever logout, instead opting to re-boot.  I have installed a VSIDO test install last night to test the systemd How To for VastOne, and notice that without the Nvidia driver installed (in other words using the Nouveau) that the logout does work fine.  So I'm assuming that it is something with the GTX 660 M Graphics Card which is still relatively new in Linux terms.  Of course you know the old axiom of assuming...
How about the Xorg 1.13 version?  Is that also not available for SID?  Just curious, and please note, I'll be difficult because I've never upgraded Xorg manually before!  Thanks for the reply...
Jedi
Title: Re: Blinking Cursor on logout
Post by: jefsview on April 10, 2013, 08:33:22 AM
I just had a look @ the Debian package site, but the numbering is strange between the Unstable and experimental. Unstable lists xserver-common at 2:1.12 while experimental lists 2:1.10. That's one thing I hate most about Linux packages -- there's no consistant package naming scheme between distros.

But it looks like Debian is stuck at 1.12 for awhile. I could try to pull the experimental packages in, but there's not a full listing of them as compared to unstable and I don't want to create dependency-hell.

I just installed the new Nvidia beta drivers, which I thought was dependant on xserver-xorg 1.13, but it seems to be working fine with 1.12.