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Title: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: VastOne on March 27, 2019, 01:32:30 AM

All changes can be seen and discussed in the VSIDO Change sub forum (http://vsido.org/index.php?board=29.0)

All files and torrents can be downloaded from the VSIDO Download page (http://vsido.org/template/index.html)

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After nearly a year, I have made some changes..

There is only the x64 and x64_uEFI versions now and forevermore

We are up to kernel 4.19 and I anticipate going to 5 in the next month

The only known issues I am aware of is that grub stalls during the install with the following message

WARNING: Device /dev/sda1 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 1000000 microseconds

I think it is an installer issue related to what @filip fixed in locating the drives, I think the grub part of the installer also cannot find the drives but does the install fine anyway

I also have a new machine now, a uEFII machine donated to VSIDO by Luke / lwfitz so I can do all real time testing now onto HW

I also want to thank jedi, whose friendship and patience are one of the rocks behind VSIDO

Enjoy and please let me know of any issues
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: PackRat on March 27, 2019, 02:43:04 AM
The uEFI iso boots just fine, but neither network manager nor ceni appear to be installed. So no easy wireless setup out of the box.

Will try them both tomorrow on a hard wired connection.
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: VastOne on March 27, 2019, 02:47:17 AM
NM was never a part of VSIDO

ceni is now Ceni

Some dumbass thought it would be cute to rename it and not use any symlinks

sudo Ceni works fine
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: jedi on March 27, 2019, 06:16:16 AM
Installed no issues at all.  Same with the stall at the grub part of the installer.  Installed fine anyway.  Rebooted, the new install is not in the current grub menu of course, logged into my goto and updated grub.  Instantly recognized the newly installed VSIDO, no errors on update-grub.  Rebooted, logged into new install ran ceni (what an asshole, ceni all along, now Cen?) setup the wifi, and came here to type in this update...  BRB
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: PackRat on March 27, 2019, 11:52:28 AM
Quote from: VastOne on March 27, 2019, 02:47:17 AM
NM was never a part of VSIDO

ceni is now Ceni

Some dumbass thought it would be cute to rename it and not use any symlinks

sudo Ceni works fine

Ceni works.

Menu entries for Ceni and Network Manager Settings are broken, then.
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: VastOne on March 27, 2019, 11:55:37 AM
Thanks, those I can control and fix

8)
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: PackRat on March 27, 2019, 11:57:17 AM
"Some dumbass thought it would be cute to rename it and not use any symlinks"

Where are you getting the package? Read that Siduction dropped ceni because it's no longer maintained and doesn't support ipV6. They may have renamed it as part of some packaging scheme.
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: VastOne on March 27, 2019, 12:58:09 PM
Somebody picked it up and it is now packaged.. it was January when the Ceni change happened  (https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/c/ceni/ceni_2.33-2_changelog)
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: PackRat on March 27, 2019, 02:19:39 PM
Installed to legacy BIOS system. Had the usual issue of grub not installing to a location other than MBR, but other than that really smooth install. Ran update-grub in the ArchLabs install and it found VSIDO no issue. So I'll forgo the chroot and install grub for now.

Nice boot time for this ancient hardware:

Startup finished in 6.370s (kernel) + 25.027s (userspace) = 31.397s
graphical.target reached after 16.066s in userspace


no hangs.
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: blaze on March 27, 2019, 03:25:03 PM
Good news! Thanks, will check when schedule allows... ::)
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: PackRat on March 27, 2019, 11:57:32 PM
Been using VSIDO off and on all day. No issues. Nice and stable.
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: VastOne on March 28, 2019, 03:05:03 AM
For those who want it here is  fix for Ceni / ceni so that you won't have to change any menus... Run the following to create a ceni symlink

sudo ln -s /usr/sbin/Ceni /usr/local/bin/ceni

Keep in mind you must know roots PW in order to run ceni.. In VSIDO default you must change the root PW to know it by running:

sudo passwd root
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: VastOne on March 28, 2019, 11:35:05 AM
Quote from: PackRat on March 27, 2019, 11:57:32 PM
Been using VSIDO off and on all day. No issues. Nice and stable.

Excellent news RatMan, thank you!
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: PackRat on March 28, 2019, 01:54:58 PM
Quote from: VastOne on March 28, 2019, 11:35:05 AM
Quote from: PackRat on March 27, 2019, 11:57:32 PM
Been using VSIDO off and on all day. No issues. Nice and stable.

Excellent news RatMan, thank you!

Borked it trying to install nvidia drivers (the more things change, the more the stay the same), issue with the initramfs-tools again. System still booted and ran, but I hate that error message during upgrades so did a new clean install. Will stick with nouveau since I won't be gaming on this computer.

During the new install, I used the legacy BIOS iso (uEFI iso on the first one) and the installer kept crashing - 3 tries. Crashes at the end of the disk partioning section, or right afterwards when it's suppose to start uncompressing the image.

Went back to the uEFI iso and it went through to completion no problelms.
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: jedi on March 28, 2019, 08:55:58 PM
The uEFI live boot went perfectly.  I did not even have to go into bios to get it to see the liveUSB! Straight to grub it went!  Default booted to the first selection, no problems or errors seen during the boot, ran (C)ceni, then installed.  (I was a little disappointed to not see 'efibootmgr' installed on the live media.)  Speaking as a mobile VSIDO user (2 laptops) it is nice to see some sort of indicator that your wireless is connected.  Is wicd still maintained?  Or is there another way to see at a glance if the connection is alive while in the fluxbox GUI?

Setup a '/' a '/home' and a '/boot/efi' from the installer. 2 out of those three partitions already existed.  The '/' I created using the installers disk tools, chose a current and already existing/used/goto '/home' and a currently existing and working '/boot/efi'.  So the disk tools (manual Geeks Paradise? choice in the installer) worked fine for me.  I never opened Gparted, before or after the install.  Got the long pause during the bootloader install which I expected, it completed (i did not see errors because i used the menu selection to install) and i rebooted.

On reboot the regular boot occured without seeing the newly installed VSIDO as I knew it would not.  Logged into my regular goto, update-grub, reboot, voila, it is now in the grub menu of course, into the new install, everything is beautiful not to steal song lyrics or anything.  So nice to leave chroot in the dust!  --BIND this!

I notice on reboot that the first time I run a root task as my user in terminal, I still have to use the vsido live password.  After I've used vsido as the pw, mine then works after that as well as roots.  Just thought it weird enough to mention.  I do a passwd change on both after the install anyway.  All of this brought to you on real metal, a MSI Laptop.

Just a cut/paste really, of what is installed and what is not during the vsido-welcome...


cups cups-pdf system-config-printer printer-driver-hpijs ;  installed from vsido-welcome

openjdk-6-jre icedtea6-plugin ; does not install (i think java is up to 8? and icedtea6 is also a higher ver now)

libreoffice libreoffice-gtk ; should be libreoffice-gtk2 now or libreoffice-gnome?  IMO your better off removing this option.  Easily installs from apt-get.

git git-gui git-cvs git-svn git-email mercurial subversion subversion-tools bzr bzrtools cvs thunar-vcs-plugin geany version control tools ; installed from vsido-welcome

openssh-server ; installed from vsido-welcome

apache2 mysql-server php5 php-pear php5-gd php5-mysql php5-imagick php5-curl curl phpmyadmin rsync cronolog ; none of the LAMP stack part installs
E: Package 'php5' has no installation candidate
E: Package 'php5-gd' has no installation candidate
E: Package 'php5-mysql' has no installation candidate
E: Package 'php5-imagick' has no installation candidate
E: Package 'php5-curl' has no installation candidate
and so on etc...

build-essential debhelper cdbs dh-make diffutils patch gnupg fakeroot lintian devscripts dpatch dput quilt zenity clipit bashburn keepassx numlockx ; installed from vsido-welcome

gimp inkscape mtpaint shotwell darktable rawtherapee ; gimp does not install because gcolor2 is not available. remove it and the rest will install just fine.




Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: jedi on March 28, 2019, 09:04:06 PM
Good grief, looking at that,  :o ^^  :o I don't want to read it either.

It's the frigging book edition of, "My uEFI install went fine".   ???
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: jedi on March 28, 2019, 09:11:31 PM
Quote from: PackRat on March 28, 2019, 01:54:58 PM
Borked it trying to install nvidia drivers (the more things change, the more the stay the same), issue with the initramfs-tools again. System still booted and ran, but I hate that error message during upgrades so did a new clean install. Will stick with nouveau since I won't be gaming on this computer.

Hey PackRat, had the same issues with Nvidia myself for the last week.  Anyway, finally got it to install and work properly.  I had to blacklist nouveau right from grub.  I think part of my issue was using my own compiled kernel.  On the new install getting rid of the nouveau driver worked for me.  I have, dare I say, newish hardware, a GTX 980M.  There are a lot of commands you can use after the .run file such as --path-to-kernel that totally broke my system a couple of times.
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: PackRat on March 29, 2019, 12:23:09 AM
The nouveau driver is what killed me. I forgot the steps I took last time for nvidia; obviously missed one. But nouveau needs to be purged and blacklisted first.

QuoteOr is there another way to see at a glance if the connection is alive while in the fluxbox GUI?

You could probably do that in conky with the if_up variable. Since VSIDO is configured to set the ethernet as eth0 or wlan0 and not the new enpxxx wlpxxx nomencalture a user could set up the conkyrc to display something like ETH0: up/down speeds, or Wlan0: up/down speeds. Probably find one ready made in the BL conky thread.

Edit - that was easier than I thought; just change the config to the correct interface name(s).

(https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2019/03/29/screen-import-Thursday_1553820473.th.png) (https://www.scrot.moe/image/aALH8)

conky.text = [[
${font Inconsolata LGC Markup:regular:size=32}${time %R}${font}
${font Inconsolata LGC Markup:regular:size=16}${time %A %e %B}${font}
${if_up enp2s0}ETH0:${offset 10}${upspeedf}${offset 10}${downspeedf}${endif}
${if_up wlp1s0}Wifi:${offset 10}${wireless_bitrate wlp1s0}${offset 10}${wireless_link_qual_perc wlp1s0}%${endif}
]];


This conkyrc is set with "if_up_strictness = address", options are up, link, address. So only the interface that is actually getting an ip address is showing.
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: VastOne on March 29, 2019, 02:39:14 AM
I love the if_up in conky.. I use it for gmail like this

${if_up eth0} ${color 7D8C93}${voffset 5}VastOne  - ${execpi 25 python ~/gmail_parser.py your_login your_pw 3}${endif}

It is a near instant notifier I have in place that tells me the network or internet has shit the bed
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: VastOne on March 29, 2019, 03:15:18 AM
Quote from: jedi on March 28, 2019, 08:55:58 PM


Just a cut/paste really, of what is installed and what is not during the vsido-welcome...


cups cups-pdf system-config-printer printer-driver-hpijs ;  installed from vsido-welcome

openjdk-6-jre icedtea6-plugin ; does not install (i think java is up to 8? and icedtea6 is also a higher ver now)

libreoffice libreoffice-gtk ; should be libreoffice-gtk2 now or libreoffice-gnome?  IMO your better off removing this option.  Easily installs from apt-get.

git git-gui git-cvs git-svn git-email mercurial subversion subversion-tools bzr bzrtools cvs thunar-vcs-plugin geany version control tools ; installed from vsido-welcome

openssh-server ; installed from vsido-welcome

apache2 mysql-server php5 php-pear php5-gd php5-mysql php5-imagick php5-curl curl phpmyadmin rsync cronolog ; none of the LAMP stack part installs
E: Package 'php5' has no installation candidate
E: Package 'php5-gd' has no installation candidate
E: Package 'php5-mysql' has no installation candidate
E: Package 'php5-imagick' has no installation candidate
E: Package 'php5-curl' has no installation candidate
and so on etc...

build-essential debhelper cdbs dh-make diffutils patch gnupg fakeroot lintian devscripts dpatch dput quilt zenity clipit bashburn keepassx numlockx ; installed from vsido-welcome

gimp inkscape mtpaint shotwell darktable rawtherapee ; gimp does not install because gcolor2 is not available. remove it and the rest will install just fine.

Great information jedi.. When I can relax a little more I will work to update the vsido-welcome.. I need a rainy quiet weekend

:D
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: PackRat on March 29, 2019, 05:07:17 PM
QuoteI had to blacklist nouveau right from grub

that's the step I forgot; blacklisting the nouveau-dkms; Step #7 in this nvidia How To. (http://lxle.net/forums/discussion/1457/tutorial-how-to-blacklist-nouveau-install-nvidia-drivers/p1)

Now have VSIDO all tidied up using nvidia-legacy driver.  ;D
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: VastOne on March 30, 2019, 02:34:23 AM
QuoteDuring the new install, I used the legacy BIOS iso (uEFI iso on the first one) and the installer kept crashing - 3 tries. Crashes at the end of the disk partioning section, or right afterwards when it's suppose to start uncompressing the image.

This is the error log from the installer (https://pastebin.com/vFXBwRns)

This feels like I have missed something very basic and I am hoping @filip can see what I am missing

This has been confirmed on a new ISO build from today
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: jedi on March 30, 2019, 04:20:29 AM
Quote from: PackRat on March 29, 2019, 05:07:17 PM
that's the step I forgot; blacklisting the nouveau-dkms; Step #7 in this nvidia How To. (http://lxle.net/forums/discussion/1457/tutorial-how-to-blacklist-nouveau-install-nvidia-drivers/p1)

Now have VSIDO all tidied up using nvidia-legacy driver.  ;D

Wow.  Thanks for the link, (I wish I didn't need links like these) the conky which is already in use  ;D and everything else you do!  Thanks for the onscreen email back as well VastOne!   ;D
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: jedi on March 30, 2019, 06:52:07 AM
By the way PackRat, beautiful scrot!  I'd love to have the pic of the wallpaper...   :-X
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: PackRat on March 30, 2019, 08:51:39 AM
Quote from: jedi on March 30, 2019, 06:52:07 AM
By the way PackRat, beautiful scrot!  I'd love to have the pic of the wallpaper...   :-X

Meoto Iwa (married rock) Japan (https://www.google.com/search?q=meoto+iwa+black+and+white&tbm=isch&ei=WS2fXOzGAsLU5gLCsqGICA&start=0&sa=N)

I think I cropped one of those; Meoto Iwa if you want to search for more.
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: lwfitz on March 31, 2019, 06:46:45 AM
Installed tonight with zero issues at all.  Glad you're enjoying the new machine VastOne!
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: filip on April 01, 2019, 06:17:09 PM
WARNING: Device /dev/sda1 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 1000000 microseconds

Seems to be a grub/lvmetad issue. Is that on UEFI or regular BIOS?
If UEFI, there's a slight possibility that it's the GRUB complaining due to missing parameter for efi dir. I'll look into it...

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=242689
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=918590



@BIOS ISO installer crash:

Judging by the log, it can't find the squashfs image... Something is either wrong with the latest ISO or something changed with the live-build (or the buildsystem vsido uses), since the 17th March ISO does have:/lib/live/mount/medium/live/filesystem.squashfswhile the 20th March one does not (thus the crash --> installer can't find the image to extract/unsquash). :)
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: VastOne on April 01, 2019, 11:51:14 PM
Hello filip and thank you for stopping in to assist

The grub delay is in the uEFI ISO (It is the only one functional right now)

This is an image of me logged into the latest ISO (26th but it has the same failure). You can see the properties and the actual location within the file manager that shows that

/lib/live/mount/medium/live/filesystem.squashfs

is there and in the correct place.. I checked this immediately when this happened


  (https://imgur.com/lVjGdi1l.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/lVjGdi1.png)
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: VastOne on April 02, 2019, 12:26:18 AM
I also confirmed that the filesystem.squash is there by using the old installer and succeeding..

However, I could not use the menu driven installer (yad based) because it could not see the (null)dev/sda1 as a device or as a block device

I ran the non gui installer version of it and it installed fine..

Is it possible that the linstaller updates I applied failed on this build?

I can also confirm that the

Device /dev/sda1 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 1000000 microseconds

error is on the non uEFI version too

It is almost as if udev is broken because it cannot seem to locate any of its own settings and devices
Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: filip on April 10, 2019, 10:35:29 AM
Hey, sorry for being MIA, had really no time to look further into the issue(s)... Hopefully this weekend I'll be able to dig into it :)

Regarding udev thing, looks to me it's either due to lvm, udev or grub itself.

Found another report here: https://forums.kali.org/showthread.php?38315-Problems-Dual-Booting-Kali-Linux-with-Windows-10-(No-signs-of-GRUB-bootloader)&p=75818

If you have time/make it before I do, it'd be good to at least eliminate grub by reinstalling it manually from an already installed system followed from live as well.Just do the usual mantra:# live only: 
# mount the root partition at /mnt and then:
mount --bind /dev /mnt/devmount --bind /sys /mnt/sysmount --bind /proc /mnt/proc
# /live only


grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX #for BIOS, adapt for UEFI as usual
update-grub

If you don't get the timeouts, then it's probably not a grub issue :)

Title: Re: VSIDO x64 and x64_uEFI ISO’s updated 2019-MAR-26 14:16 CST
Post by: VastOne on September 04, 2022, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: PackRat on March 27, 2019, 02:43:04 AM
but neither network manager nor ceni appear to be installed. So no easy wireless setup out of the box.

Will try them both tomorrow on a hard wired connection.

I was dead wrong way back on this one and jedi helped me to correct this for installs now. Back then I was thinking of a ubuntu network manager tool that was a behemoth and not the small ncurses based package that was removed back then (by this idiot Dev) and is now back in and all working as it should

I don't usually necro post but this shows how intense I can be in correcting a mistake I made

Thanks RatMan for pointing this out way back then and jedi for the clarity

Also, of note. When I stopped development of VSIDO back in March of 2019, the debian 4.x kernel was at end of life with the 4.19 release. Resuming development now we have gone a full kernel cycle the the 5.x kernel coming to it's end of life and we are sitting on the 5.19 fence now

It's good to be back