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Title: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on October 14, 2016, 11:51:48 PM
I have uploaded a test ISO that has the ability to install via uefi if everything is setup correctly

It is part of the Alternative Installer which is the refracta installer. Simply run it and follow the directions

I do not have anything uefi so I am at an extreme disadvantage in trying to test this. According to this uefi topic on the Gentoo forum (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1002254-start-0.html) you must have a couple of things setup via the bios or the uefi grub will not install correctly. I am seeing that message

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grub2-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory

because I do not have the correct uefi setup

So what I need is anyone with uefi to test and let me know if this works

You can get the ISO from the VSIDO Download Page Test area (http://www.nixnut.com/vsido/test/)
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on October 15, 2016, 12:03:56 AM
One note on this ISO during the grub install

If the uefi grub installation fails you will get this message

(http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/screenshot2016-10-1419-00-39.png) (http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot2016-10-1419-00-39.php)

By clicking Continue a normal version of grub2 is installed and the installation completes successfully
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: jedi on October 15, 2016, 12:19:59 AM
Let you know as soon as the download is complete!  Haven't been paying attention as well as I should be obviously...  ???
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on October 15, 2016, 12:22:35 AM
Sounds good.. I do have efi capabilities in VirtualBox that I have never enabled before now and I am testing it as well that way

Not the same but at least I can see some of the things you will
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: lwfitz on October 15, 2016, 08:13:47 AM
Downloading and will install in the morning
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on October 15, 2016, 07:01:29 PM
Excellent... Thanks Luke
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: lwfitz on October 15, 2016, 08:48:37 PM
Ive downloaded twice and am unable to boot. I boot to my usb and everything looks fine, then the screen goes black and never comes back up. Any ideas?
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: PackRat on October 15, 2016, 09:12:30 PM
@lwfitz -

Does your UEFI computer recognize the USB as a UEFI boot device? Our Toshiba does not, I believe, so booting from USB is whacked if it happens at all. Try burning a CD/DVD if you have one.

Also, is Windows installed on that computer? for some reason, I have to boot Windows, then reboot to get a CD to boot. That's something internal to Windows - in addition to the speed boot which needs to be disabled.

Verify your BIOS is set up correctly.
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: jedi on October 15, 2016, 10:04:29 PM
Hey lwfitz, sounds suspiciously like a video thing.  If you go to the advanced options in the grub boot menu on the live cd, VastOne has conveniently added a menu entry for automatically using the 'nomodeset' option.  Conversely, you can hit the 'e' at the initial grub selection on boot and type in 'nomodeset' at the end of the 'Linux' line in grub.  Try this and see if it works.  Even with my new lappy, it all worked for me no problem...   ???

Good luck and nice to see you in here!!!   :P
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: lwfitz on October 16, 2016, 02:02:42 AM
Ive got his board

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M5A78LMUSB3/

and it doesnt give much as far as bios settings/uefi. Basically just force bios or keep current.

If it wasnt seeing as an efi device im assuming it wouldnt boot at all because it wouldnt know what to do.

I think Jedi is on the right track with it being a graphics issue.

This is my card

https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/TURBO-GTX1060-6G/

 BTW no luck with what you said either Jedi.

Thanks guys Ill keep on it and see if I can get booted
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: hakerdefo on October 16, 2016, 09:34:07 PM
Ive downloaded twice and am unable to boot. I boot to my usb and everything looks fine, then the screen goes black and never comes back up. Any ideas?
Hi there,
BIOS > Advanced menu > Video Settings > Internal Graphics > IGFX-GFX0-GPP-PCI
Above is approximated BIOS menu workflow but it should be close enough for your board. Important bit is to select "IGFX-GFX0-GPP-PCI" as your primary display adapter. Save the settings. Next move HDMI cable from graphics card port to the onboard HDMI port. Reboot using the VSIDO USB and complete the install. Reboot into the installed VSIDO and download NVIDIA driver installer. After the download completes, move to a tty and stop the display manager. Install the NVIDIA driver. Reboot into BIOS once the driver installation is complete and  select "GFX0-GPP-IGFX-PCI" as your primary display adapter. Save the settings. move HDMI cable from onboard HDMI port to the graphics card port. Reboot with your fingers crossed ;)

Cheers!!!
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: lwfitz on October 16, 2016, 09:44:21 PM
^ Genius! Ill try that shortly. The animals need to get fed :-D

It is interesting though that I didnt have this issue with any other version.

Edit:

I forgot I didnt have this video card when I installed last time. I had an ATI card and that one had its own issues.
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: lwfitz on October 17, 2016, 12:02:34 AM
OK that worked great and got me booted up.

I've never setup uefi before, do I need to designate a fat partition for the bootloader or does the installer do this?
Has anyone got this to work? I keep getting a grub install error.
(http://en.zimagez.com/miniature/img20161016165905.jpg) (http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/img20161016165905.php)
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on October 17, 2016, 12:04:17 AM
You have linux on this computer already lwfitz?
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on October 17, 2016, 12:07:22 AM
lwfitz Check out this page for an EFI explanation (http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/experimental/uefi_install.readme) with this installer

Also, Jedi has successfully installed it and knows a ton more than I do about EFI
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: lwfitz on October 17, 2016, 12:08:33 AM
Not right now I don't. I broke my install..... Again..... So I grabbed the efi image and formatted my hard drive as got and ran the installer once I got it booted up.

For some reason grub errors though (like it always seems to on this machine).
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: lwfitz on October 17, 2016, 12:09:54 AM
Thanks VastOne I'll read it now. I'm learning this as I go so thanks for the patience and help guys.
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: lwfitz on October 17, 2016, 02:24:27 AM
I just installed another distro with uefi and it said I'm not on a uefi system which must mean for whatever reason the installer isn't seeing that its an efi board.

I wanted to replace this board anyway so now I have a reason. Ordering one tonight and will continue this in a day or so.
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: jedi on October 17, 2016, 03:54:10 AM
Wow, I need a board too!!!
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: jedi on October 17, 2016, 03:56:35 AM
 ;)  BTW, lwfitz, we still exist in the IRC as well!!! See you there soon maybe?   ::)
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: lwfitz on October 17, 2016, 04:16:51 AM
Hahaha yep you'll see me soon.... Maybe tonight!
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: jedi on October 17, 2016, 05:30:10 AM
I know man, just a little ribbing!  You need to frequent our "online-tavern" a little more often...
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on October 17, 2016, 09:56:07 PM
I have created another ISO that supports the NVM crap that Jedi got with an MSI he bought...

You can get the ISO here (http://www.nixnut.com/vsido/test/nvm_only/)

If anyone ever needs to there is a method to install grub in a back door way OR with chroot

Holler at me or Jedi should you need it
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: jedi on October 19, 2016, 04:42:30 AM
OK, so I have done this successfully, however; I have since fubar'd my grub. I still haven't got it fixed. I'm really tired, been fighting with it for to long. Putting the MSI away for a while. Not sure when I'll get back to it, and if/when I do it may be to just sell it.  :(
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: jedi on October 19, 2016, 03:42:33 PM
Alright.  Sold the POS to the next door neighbors!  Hour later, they want their money back.  :'(  So before taking it out to my burn pit out back, here goes.  I have a UEFI board in this lappy, SecureBoot is "DISABLED", and UEFI mode is enabled. (no legacy bios). GPT drive. of the PCIe NVMe variety. Buyer beware/be aware...  Awseome cause their so fast, small, and run cool.  Not awesome cause they suck with support in Linux.  So yes, having an SSD drive which is also a NVMe M.2 drive, is like walking a tightrope across the Grand Canyon with no rope...   ???
I can't in good conscious advocate for them.
So I can boot (barely, and to the point where I really don't want to reboot and see if it will boot back up) but only in "recovery mode".  Every other way, I get the 1 minute 30 second "A start job is running you stupid POS blah blah blah... 
Yes I have a separate vfat partition that is mounted as /boot/efi.  Yes it is set to boot and as the ESP.  (this is /dev/nvme0n1p1, or /boot/efi)  The root OS (VSIDO of course) is installed at /dev/nvme0n1p3.  And onward to the /home partition which is at /dev/nvme0n1p4.  This is the new naming scheme for the new PCIe (not so new anymore) NVMe solid state drives.
I just want to be able to boot normally.  I know it will, nothing is broken, something is just 'confused'.  I need to be able to issue the command in the cli that tells the system/kernel/OS? how to identify the devices in /dev.  i.e. /dev/disk/by-id/ or /dev/disk/by-uuid/.  I have all the correct UUID's setup and still it hoses on boot with the minute thirty second BS.
I've reinstalled grub-efi, edited /etc/fstab till my face turned blue and my wife called an ambulance. (just kidding, chill) and more 'other' lesser things to no avail.  Not sure what happened with lwfitz, but he was also experiencing some kind of issue and I think I read at some point recently PackRat having some of these minute 30 second BS thing-a-ma-jig episodes...
whew now i'm really tarred
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on October 19, 2016, 03:52:17 PM
Not the fix you want but a fix it is.  Install Manjaro or whatever Linux that does recognize your efi and correctly installs grub.  Install the personal VSIDO ISO I created just for this MSI.  Reboot to Manjaro and run update-grub.  Then leave it alone.  Make fsarchives of both so you have something to fall back on

The refracta links I have provided has a How To on setting up grub with this installer. It goes over 3 different methods to get it done
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: jedi on October 19, 2016, 04:12:00 PM
Not the fix you want but a fix it is.  Install Manjaro or whatever Linux that does recognize your efi and correctly installs grub.  Install the personal VSIDO ISO I created just for this MSI.  Reboot to Manjaro and run update-grub.  Then leave it alone.  Make fsarchives of both so you have something to fall back on

The refracta links I have provided has a How To on setting up grub with this installer. It goes over 3 different methods to get it done

I do not remember where those links might be? (the refracta 3 different ones)  I'll be ecstatic with any fix!!!  This install is installed using the ISO you created for the nvm_only for me.  Works great.  I'm just not sure it is a VSIDO issue is all I wanted to suggest.  I'm going to sleep for a while now.  Tonight when I wake up this will be my wonderful excuse for not having to sit through another debate with wife watching our pathetic candidates for prez. ;')
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on October 19, 2016, 04:22:46 PM
I shared the link here (http://vsido.org/index.php?topic=1214.msg13653#msg13653)

Also on IRC and emails promoting the refracta assistance on their web site.  fsmithred has been incredible in assisting on any issues with the refracta tools we use
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: PackRat on October 19, 2016, 11:35:55 PM
Not the fix you want but a fix it is.  Install Manjaro or whatever Linux that does recognize your efi and correctly installs grub.  Install the personal VSIDO ISO I created just for this MSI.  Reboot to Manjaro and run update-grub.  Then leave it alone.  Make fsarchives of both so you have something to fall back on

The refracta links I have provided has a How To on setting up grub with this installer. It goes over 3 different methods to get it done

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This install is installed using the ISO you created for the nvm_only for me.  Works great.

Since jedi can apparently install from the VSIDO_nvm iso, then has trouble with booting, maybe install it first, then on it's own small partition install the Manjaro, minimal net addition - (https://manjaro.org/get-manjaro/). After the install of Manjaro, he can edit the /etc/default/grub file to make VSIDO the default. Use the minimal Manjaro install as a rescue OS. Might need to put a hold on grub in the VSIDO apt so it doesn't whack anything.
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: lwfitz on October 20, 2016, 04:07:53 AM
Well, looks like I'm not the only one having issues getting installed.
Received the new board yesterday

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M5A99FX_PRO_R20/

Along with a new chassis and got everything transfered over. In doing so I dropped my CPU and bent a pin..... Sigh.

Now that I have replacement parts and I have my helmet on I've been working on getting installed.

I've got uefi boot on, secure boot off, a fat partition for boot/grub and have even had a couple good installs with no errors and still can't boot.

Just to make sure my settings were correct I installed with a purple distro and  everything installed just fine and booted no problem
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: jedi on October 22, 2016, 05:03:15 AM
make sure my settings were correct I installed with a purple distro

Wow. I'm incredibly old. Whatever brain cells are left at this point, they're limping, if their upright at all...

??? (can you remind me what a 'purple distro' is? sounds like something i'd try?)  ???
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: lwfitz on October 22, 2016, 11:44:07 PM
Lol in this instance I was referring to Ubuntu but next time I may means quaaludes
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on December 31, 2016, 12:01:55 AM
@jedi

fsmithred has updated the overall script of the refracta installer to include code for locating NVMe drives. I have created a test ISO that is in the same directory as the original NVMe test downloads (http://www.nixnut.com/vsido/test/nvm_only/)

I do not need you to do a full install but can you boot to this from a USB and take it to the point of the alternate installer locating and make sure it correctly finds your NVMe drives please .. if you could do a full install to a new partition that would be just icing..

I did test this on normal /sda installs and it worked perfectly

I also just today got some news in a PM from Filip who told me that the main installer is just about finished with code needed for NVMe support. He will let me know when that is ready

Thanks
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on December 31, 2016, 06:10:07 AM
There is also just this test to run ... a simulation script

Attached is the file nvme, a bash script that will run just long enough to ask where you want grub to install and where you want to install the ISO.. as long as it sees your nvme drives, we are good to go

make sure it is executable and drop to a terminal in whatever directory you saved it in and run

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./nvme
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: jedi on January 01, 2017, 06:38:53 AM
 :-[  will do this in the next 24 hours promise!  Been down and out for a few days.  Hopefully Tuesday takes care of all this!  :'(
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on January 01, 2017, 06:56:05 AM
^ Thanks.. the script should take less than ten seconds to run and confirm!

Hope you feel better soon
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: jedi on January 01, 2017, 08:25:49 AM
So far, unable to create an UEFI bootable image with the ISO from the 30th.  I've downloaded it twice, and used two separate USB drives, no joy.  Giving up for the night, will try again tomorrow/today...
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on January 01, 2017, 04:06:36 PM
The script run is all that is needed

as soon as you run the attached nvme script and verify it sees your nvme drives I will sand reply to fsmithred (http://refracta.freeforums.org/refracta-efi-and-nvme-samsung-950-pro-drives-t621.html?sid=a58d1287f73ef14898ea4d06e3f0231a#p6127) and he will add it in the uefi iso builds of refracta

Then the uefi will be built with the installer
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: lwfitz on February 06, 2017, 09:01:25 AM
Just installed and everything went flawlessly  8)
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: VastOne on April 03, 2017, 01:42:27 AM
I have just uploaded new uEFI ISO's that can be downloaded here (http://www.nixnut.com/vsido/test/uefi/)

Anyone with uEFI/nvme can use this and should be able to use either of the installers
Title: Re: uefi Test ISO
Post by: jedi on April 03, 2017, 04:43:54 AM
Very nice!  Though I must say, I'm quite happy with my bloat loaded (yes all hdd's and ssd's and NVRAMM or whatever else you can store files on are huge now) version of  ;D VSIDO I'm running now!  Over 3200 packages installed on this one.  The .fsa's are getting rather larger...  (of my system)  Still boots in seconds, loads and runs multiple apps, including the latest games (yeah, thanks Steam) and never ever crashes!  8)
(ok, sorry, had to run out to the garage for a moment)
 ??? This ISO will get installed on partition 4.  I now currently have over 7 Tb's of storage/install space, just on my personal laptop.  :o