Ive been using VSIDO as my main OS from day one (Sept. maybe?) and have found it to be 100% stable from my first install. Now MANY MANY installations later and Im even more on board. Ive installed on everything from a dual thread P4 to a 6 core AMD FX-6200 and on systems with Intel, ATI and Nvidia video cards and had 99% out of the box functionality. In my experience this is unheard of in a new distro.
Out of the box hardware support is fantastic but even more than that, this community is top shelf. And that is why I have stuck around like I have. Whether its artwork, conky or troubleshooting a fix for VastOne to add into the next ISO you all have blown me away in how you communicate and feed off of one another.
So, now I am running VSIDO on 3 machines and this weekend will be installing on a fourth that is my office server which at the moment is running CentOS.
The only thing I would like to see added in one of these days is
gvfs-backends
and
libbluetooth3
These are required to use samba shares directly through Thunar. At one point I was working on sharing with SpaceFM but it didnt seem nearly as stable or fast so I stick with what works.
Thanks VastOne and everone else who makes VSIDO and this community so amazing!
Thank you lwfitz! That is a glowing review and good luck with your server update
gvfs-backends and libbluetooth3 will be added to the next ISO build
Thanks!
AWESOME! Thank you! Ive installed on a similar machine with no issue at all so it should be pretty simple. Ill update after its up and running
I only have one machine, but I have installed it so many times here, with quad booting VSIDO at times;
Liquorix kernel - NVIDIA graphic driver (my default)
Liquorix kernel - nouveau graphic driver
Debian kernel - NVIDIA graphic driver
Debian kernel - nouveau graphic driver
It's never failed me yet.
Awesome distro isn't saying enough.
I couldn't agree more. I have 2 installs, one just Xfce and the other Fluxbox and both are lightning fast and so much fun to play with.
Just a bit of feedback on my part: WICD is still listed under Xfce's Start-up, and there's a nice little TODO list in the Fluxbox config folder. I found it interesting.
Also, could you place in folders the extra tint2 configs, since it's difficult to find which one does what, especially since they're in at least 2 separate directories.
BTW, I really like the Fluxbox menu editor. Very similar to the Openbox root menu editor, and simple to use.
Keep up the great work. Been loving it.
-- Jeff
I'll take care of the WICD in Xfce.. one I overlooked, thanks
What do you mean by the TODO in the FB Config folder?
The tint2 files in /usr/local/bin are basically the same, the differences being what one is being used for OB or Xfce/Fluxbox. I am not sure what you are asking here..
I included a mass collection of tint2 configs that I had played with for several months for people to use as a guide on what can be done with tint2
Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it! :)
The WICD in Xfce is a phantom startup that does nothing and what is strange is I cannot delete it or find where it is stored at. I know where the correct ones are stored but this one and several other old ones are not there nor can they be deleted.
I will continue looking
Thanks!
Quote from: VastOne on March 23, 2013, 03:49:51 AM
I'll take care of the WICD in Xfce.. one I overlooked, thanks
What do you mean by the TODO in the FB Config folder?
The tint2 files in /usr/local/bin are basically the same, the differences being what one is being used for OB or Xfce/Fluxbox. I am not sure what you are asking here..
I included a mass collection of tint2 configs that I had played with for several months for people to use as a guide on what can be done with tint2
Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it! :)
Re: Tint2 config files. It just took me a while to suss out which one was being used. They're all just in the tint2 folder, but there's one in the home directory and one in like etc or usr. Guess I just need to hone up on tint2; just haven't had time.
The TODO file in the fluxbox folder are like notes of what you want done, where there are bugs and how you want to it to look/work. Perhaps it's not yours, but the Fluxbox devs. Oh, it's in the
flux menu folder. I'll attach it. It was just something I found, and thought was rather strange.
Right, the TODO is a fluxmenu dev to do list
Anytime you need to see what app is running you can do one of these
xfce4-taskmanager from any of the menus, it will tell you
grc is one of the aliases that does a grep of what ever you enter as grc appname
in this case
grc tint2
htop also lists everything running
I wanted to keep all the tint2 files in every /home directories but tint2 does not recognize $HOME or $USER parameters and must have a direct path to it's files. Because of this they are in /user/local/bin
Since my #! days tint2 has always resided in ~/.config/tint2. The installed defaults and all the extra ones I have made, including any that {cough cough}"borrowed" from VSIDO /user/local/bin
I keep them there, ~/.config/tint2, because I don't want to have to be root to edit them.
What is different with VSIDO that they can't be there?
Quote from: Sector11What is different with VSIDO that they can't be there?
??? That's where I copied them to and just pointed autostart.sh there.
Everything has been working fine on OB.
You can run them from anywhere. My intention is to localize them in /usr/local/bin so that when they are called from anything that cannot handle $HOME and $USERS I do not have to worry about where they are.
It is either Xfce (most likely the culprit), OB or FB or all that cannot handle the tint2 files being called unless it is a direct path. If it is in the /home directory of every user and I cannot use $HOME or ~/.config/tint2 or $USER variables, they will not run
If anyone has a solution to the issue, I am all ears
From my autostart.sh for Openbox:
## Launch panel
(sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/tint2rc) &
# (sleep 3s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/1_tint2rc) &
# (sleep 3s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/t2launchrc) &
# (sleep 2s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/tint2rc_top) &
# (sleep 2s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/tint2rc_bot) &
And I have this in my OB Menu:
<menu id="tint2config" label="tint2">
<item label="Edit config file">
<action name="Execute">
<execute>geany ~/.config/tint2/tint2rc</execute>
</action>
</item>
<item label="Restart tint2">
<action name="Execute">
<execute>~/bin/tint2restart</execute>
</action>
</item>
<item label="Restart t2rs">
<action name="Execute">
<execute>~/bin/t2rs</execute>
</action>
</item>
<item label="VO T2 TEST">
<action name="Execute">
<execute>~/bin/VO_tint2</execute>
</action>
</item>
~/bin/tint2restart
#!/bin/bash
# ----------
# Simple script to restart tint2
if [ "$(pidof tint2)" ]; then
killall tint2 && sleep 1s && tint2 &
exit 0
else
tint2 &
exit 0
fi
~/bin/t2rs
#!/bin/bash
# ----------
# Simple script to restart tint2
# if [ "$(pidof tint2)" ]; then
# killall tint2 && sleep 1s && tint2 &
# exit 0
# else
# tint2 &
# exit 0
# fi
if [ "$(pidof tint2)" ]; then
killall tint2 &
(sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/t2launchrc) &
(sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/tint2rc_bot) &
exit 0
else
(sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/t2launchrc) &
(sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/tint2rc_bot) &
exit 0
fi
~/bin/VO_tint2
#!/bin/bash
COMMENT_BLOCK=
if [ $COMMENT_BLOCK ]; then
Simple script to re-start:
~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2
fi ## comment ends
if [ "$(pidof tint2)" ]; then
killall tint2 &
(sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rc) &
# (sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rcall) &
# (sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rcallbtm) &
# (sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rcalltiny) &
# (sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rcalltop) &
# (sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rcallvert) &
(sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rcallvertleft) &
(sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rctotal) &
exit 0
else
(sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rc) &
# (sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rcall) &
# (sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rcallbtm) &
# (sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rcalltiny) &
# (sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rcalltop) &
# (sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rcallvert) &
(sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rcallvertleft) &
(sleep 1s && tint2 -c ~/.config/tint2/VSIDO/tint2rctotal) &
exit 0
fi
So if OpenBox can use ~/ I'd guess $HOME will work. Not sure about $USER though, I'll have to test that.
ALL of the above worked at one time ... I'd need to recheck everything, but the ones in my OB menu work perfectly, I used them within the past few days to talk about your genius with tweaking tiint2 (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2170&p=12565478#post12565478)!
^ Right, OB is not the issue, it is Xfce that causes the headache
Since I have no control over what a user decides to use between Xfce/FB/OB, /usr/local/bin is the logical choice for it. It works OOTB, and that is what is relevant...
Anybody can move them to where ever they want after the install
Your absolutely correct about it being Xfce. Both OB and Fluxbox use a editable start up script which will allow you to use $HOME or ~/ but xfce (to the best of my knowledge) is limited to adding startup scripts/programs through a gui which needs a physical path.
That being said its pretty easy to
sudo thunar /usr/local/bin
or
sudo spacefm /usr/local/bin
and then edit the tint2 configs to your liking
Or as someone mentions just change the startup to the configs in ~/.config/tint2
Hey VastOne can you add Gnome3 or KDE to the next ISO? :D
^ :D ...
Sure, or just eliminate the problem child that is Xfce
I already have an ISO of just Fluxbox.. :-X
As much as I love Xfce I find that I have very little use for it anymore. I do hope this doesnt mean you got rid of thunar cuz I might weep a little
if thats true.
Just Fluxbox huh? No OB? Explain...... You have 3 min..... GO!
It's better than both Xfce and OB
And lighter
Oh crap that really was like 3 min....... impressive!
Great reason and I agree so you have my vote ;D
VastOne said
It's better than both Xfce and OB
That's an opinion ... I think OB is better
and then he said:
And lighter
So is SliTaz GNU/Linux (http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slitaz)
Are you going to drop Xfce and OB?
No
Does everything have to be so serious all the time?
I am tired, just tired.. It is suddenly like I can't do a damned thing right
This thread is called a little feedback, and I appreciate the opportunity to give back a little of my own
I did not build this for any one individual, but to try and accommodate several needs. If I happen to like Fluxbox and think OB is very lacking, that is no new news to anyone. I have never hid my dislike of OB, but that does not mean I would ever drop it.
What I do expect is for people who do like OB to champion it, for people who do like conky to champion it, for people who do like tint2 to champion it and of course for anyone who likes VSIDO to champion it too
With all the work you do on your other projects, I'm still amazed at the "Awesomeness" (is that a word?) of VSIDO! How you find the time, much less the patience to deal with some of us (me) amazes me as well. (well I know for a fact lwfitz is a problem child as well :D )
Since the addition of FB, I haven't looked back. Xfce was the defacto standard for me for a long time, and I haven't used it since you and vrkalak pointed it out!
I'll definitely be "championing" (is that a word?) VSIDO!
Some people called Einstein a problem child....... ;D ;D
I enjoy all three (Xfce, FB and OB) but my opinion is that this is VastOnes vision and Im just here for the ride and from time to time I get to make suggestions.
And then heres where I stray from the pack....... I am loyal to one thing and one thing only when it comes to software and that is that I must be learning something new all the time. Just like in my everyday life once I think I know everything Im screwed. So right here and now I love OB and FB because they are both causing me to constantly learn.
From VastOnes last post I think he needs a hug, so here you go buddy......
(http://en.zimagez.com/miniature/man-hug.jpg) (http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/man-hug.php)
A quick question about forum behavior - not the people, the actual forum.
When I post, the forum kicks me out to the main page that lists all the threads, not back to thread I was posting in. Is this normal behavior, or are my settings a bit whacked?
I didn't see any forum settings options - but it was a quick look.
That is a user option, one that I thought was set globally for everyone to return to the same thread
I will check on the server end too
Quote from: VastOne on March 24, 2013, 02:06:50 AM
Does everything have to be so serious all the time?
I am tired, just tired.. It is suddenly like I can't do a damned thing right
This thread is called a little feedback, and I appreciate the opportunity to give back a little of my own
I did not build this for any one individual, but to try and accommodate several needs. If I happen to like Fluxbox and think OB is very lacking, that is no new news to anyone. I have never hid my dislike of OB, but that does not mean I would ever drop it.
What I do expect is for people who do like OB to champion it, for people who do like conky to champion it, for people who do like tint2 to champion it and of course for anyone who likes VSIDO to champion it too
I fully understand. You should continue to develop VSIDO in the direction that best serves your needs and your goals for the distro, whether it`s to best suite your own needs and wants, or it is to reach a bigger crowd and perhaps getting a little commercial, reselling hosting, be sponsored, accepting donations and/or have a little shop like Crunchbang.
You have to take care of your own interests of the distro, so that you don`t end up like Fragadelic in Remastersys. As long as you`re not commercial you shouldn`t be so concerned with what the users wants, because most people here are able to install and configure a DE/WM themselves, if they are not happy with whatever is the default at the moment. But I guess it all depends what your intentions are... Please others, or please yourself first, or something in the middle... It`s your distro, do it your way, and those that want`s to use it... do just that...
But now I was serious, and you are quite right, everything hasn`t got to be so serious. This should be fun. After all, it`s our free-time we are using on this. If it`s not fun, then it`s simply not worth it... Just my 2 cents...
Good post ew, I quite agree, do your own thing VastOne, others will follow. ;D
@PackRat
Profile > Modify Profile > Look & Layout >Return To Topics After Posting By Default.
It was annoying me as well. :)
^ muchas gracias -
looking all over for that and it was right there - :'(
^ I did the same thing the first time... For the life of me I do not know why SMF defaults to kicking you back to the main page