Xfce 4.10 from debian experimental/ Siduction?

[ozitraveller]

Hi

This a learn thing for me, I could setup and just use VSIDO but I would rather understand how it all hangs together.

I have had a look at: preferences, apt.config and sources.list, and been here
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=269335#p269335
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=267548%23p267548#p267548
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=21324

I'm wondering which repos the xfce packages are being drawn from?

Cheers
Ozi

[VastOne]

From the Siduction repos... They packaged 4.10 perfectly so thats where we get them from

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deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/xfcenext unstable main

[VastOne]

Note see my edit, and the first link you posted over on #! is where I got my idea from

[VastOne]

An here is the Siduction site talking about it

Also, jotapesse was a great resource for digging this stuff up over in #!

[ozitraveller]

Thanks vastOne!

Lightening quick as usual!!

How would I differentiate debian unstable and siduction unstable?

[VastOne]

in the repos, Debian sid is shown as sid

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deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free

Where Siduction is unstable

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deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/xfcenext unstable main

So ...

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sudo apt-get -t unstable install xfce4

Another great reason for Debian to get rid of the entire Sid/Unstable label and go with something like rolling

[ozitraveller]

Thanks, and yes I agree that the sid/unstable is a pain!

So you aren't getting anything from experimental now?

[VastOne]

Yes... The main kernel is coming from Experimental...

It is parked there waiting for the Freeze to pass over, and Wheezy to go to stable...

Thats when you will see the 3.8 kernel and 4.10 Xfce4 hit Sid or even Testing

[ozitraveller]

Thanks for your time VastOne.

[VastOne]

No worries Oz, I enjoy it!   

[lwfitz]

Great questions Ozzie! Some of which I had myself but just never asked. Thanks for this

[ozitraveller]

Thanks lwfitz

I don't want to be a passenger, I want to able to drive the bus!

[VastOne]

^ Looking forward to your creation Oz! 

[ozitraveller]

I'm curious to know what the difference between

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http://oscar.aptosid.com/debian/ sid main fix.main


and this is? Is is sid versus unstable, so that apt.conf

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http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/xfcenext unstable main


[VastOne]

The first is aptosid so we can pull in all the cool stuff from there with kernel-remover the most important but there are others I cannot recall at the moment (been a long day)

The other is siduction and that is specifically for Xfce 4.10

Once Wheezy goes stable, a mass amount of testing space will be freed and you will see a lot of Sid transition at that time as it's current 'unstable apps' move to testing... (fricking freeze fecks up debian IMO)

Then you will see Xfce 4.10 move from Experimental to Sid and we can then rely on it from there

The issue is the freeze right now, it locks down a lot of stuff that has nothing to do with Wheezy/Testing/Stable, but all the things that could be happening if there was not a freeze