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PackRat

Xfce 4.20 desktop running in Wayland with labwc as the compositor:

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VastOne

Quote from: PackRat on December 24, 2024, 09:46:51 PMXfce 4.20 desktop running in Wayland with labwc as the compositor:



Very nice, I would consider Wayland but it still apparently has issues with nVidia drivers and is not recommended
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Quote from: VastOne on December 24, 2024, 10:51:32 PMVery nice, I would consider Wayland but it still apparently has issues with nVidia drivers and is not recommended

Yes, Wayland can be a real pain to get running if you have nVidia.
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PackRat

I am tired of talk that comes to nothing.
-- Chief Joseph

...the sun, the darkness, the winds are all listening to what we have to say.
-- Geronimo

VastOne

Quote from: PackRat on December 25, 2024, 01:27:36 PMYes, Wayland can be a real pain to get running if you have nVidia.
All right RatMan, I have installed VSIDO on a device without nVidia, pure nouveau.. Is the smallest and easiest way to get Wayland buy installing XFCE4?
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Quote from: VastOne on December 28, 2024, 03:53:08 AM
Quote from: PackRat on December 25, 2024, 01:27:36 PMYes, Wayland can be a real pain to get running if you have nVidia.
All right RatMan, I have installed VSIDO on a device without nVidia, pure nouveau.. Is the smallest and easiest way to get Wayland buy installing XFCE4?

Yes. That will give you xfce4 for X11 and wayland. As long as it's Xfce 4.20 which I believe is all current in Sid.

The trick is that the xfce4 window manager does not work with wayland, so you will need an additional compositor. Xfce 4.20 has been coded to work with labwc or wayfire.

The default is labwc which I believe is in Sid repos; labwc is developed by the same people that develop jgmenu. Labwc is configured like openbox - rc.xml, menu.xml etc ...

from the Xfce4 site ( https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap#testing )

QuoteTo start an Xfce session on Wayland, you can run startxfce4 --wayland from a tty, which will launch xfce4-session from labwc. If you want to use wayfire instead, you'll need to run startxfce4 --wayland wayfire and add this configuration first, as wayfire doesn't have a --startup option like labwc (see startxfce4 --help for details):

I use labwc (wayfire is like the old compviz) so from a tty, I just use "startxfce4 --wayland" (actually set up a bash alias for the command) and it worked out of the box. I did go into xfce4 on X11 first to set up the desktop session first - theme, icons etc ... I know there are a couple of bugs trying to set the wallpaper from Wayland.

Other than the xfce window manager, the pager and system tray do not work. Other than that, all the xfce4 apps (thunar, xfce4-terminal etc ...) and plugins work.

Xfce will control everything. Window decor, keybindings, notifications, desktop icons .... So no need to configure labwc.

That was wrong. Xfce 4.20 will control the desktop - wallpaper panel, desktop icons, notifications etc ... So no need for a labwc autostart file.
Labwc (or Wayfire) will control the window decor and keybindings so those get configured in the rc.xml.
I am tired of talk that comes to nothing.
-- Chief Joseph

...the sun, the darkness, the winds are all listening to what we have to say.
-- Geronimo

PackRat

Quote from: VastOne on December 24, 2024, 10:51:32 PM
Quote from: PackRat on December 24, 2024, 09:46:51 PMXfce 4.20 desktop running in Wayland with labwc as the compositor:



Very nice, I would consider Wayland but it still apparently has issues with nVidia drivers and is not recommended

I am reading in some other forums that newer/newest drivers (>560) for nVidia are working with Wayland. How old is your hardware?
I am tired of talk that comes to nothing.
-- Chief Joseph

...the sun, the darkness, the winds are all listening to what we have to say.
-- Geronimo

VastOne

Quote from: PackRat on December 31, 2024, 03:20:08 PMI am reading in some other forums that newer/newest drivers (>560) for nVidia are working with Wayland. How old is your hardware?

I have a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 and am using NVIDIA Driver Version: 565.77  CUDA Version: 12.7 that I install from the .run files and not from any debian sources.

IMHO it is a huge chunk to give up fluxbox and try something going backwards (meaning XFCE-4) that may or may not work. I'll try to test it as it gets colder and I have more time but honestly I don't see a big push for it and as ancient as X11 is it still works quite well
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Quote from: VastOne on December 31, 2024, 05:51:52 PMIMHO it is a huge chunk to give up fluxbox and try something going backwards (meaning XFCE-4) that may or may not work. I'll try to test it as it gets colder and I have more time but honestly I don't see a big push for it and as ancient as X11 is it still works quite well

I hear you there. I've been using Wayland off/on for a few months now. Mostly sway since it's a Wayland clone of i3 (what I mostly use on X11 these days).

Don't really have a reason to make a full-time switch to Wayland since I don't see a performance improvement. It would be a switch just to use the new thing.

Someone with new[ish] hardware, particularly graphics, probably has a more compelling argument to make the switch.

Having said that; KDE Plasma 6 on Wayland. The battery widget is actually the wireless keyboard for the desktop computer. Other than that, runs nice and smooth:



Wallpaper is the ruins of Mayapan.

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dizzie

#145
So I made a thing, and no conky was hurt in the making :)



i3wm with gaps
i3status instead of conky
6 urxvts with my own colourscheme (I'm a fan of dark, so bite me!)

Apps running: weechat, moc(using pipewire), vim, fastfetch (neofetch but coded in C), my colours, and another vim

What I miss? If only I could make i3status show the weather :)

I build this computer from scrap, used, and some new- parts. Payd $5 for cpu heh. Only new thing I had to get was a powersupply, and an extra stick of ram. All QVL ofcourse :)

I'll eventually put my configs on github (people still use github yeah?) But for now- Enjoy the eyecandy :)

It's the perfect hackingstation :)
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PackRat

That looks excellent.

Quote from: dizzie on April 08, 2025, 02:45:36 PMWhat I miss? If only I could make i3status show the weather :)

I've never tried this:

Weather in i3status
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dizzie



Fixed, installed Sway instead:

- Sway with waybar
    waybar showing: interface, cpu temp, cpu load, ram, disk, volume, weather, clock
- foot is my terminal of choice with nord colours, using spacemono/12 font
- mocp is my music player of choice (soft mixer is a pipewire thing)
- spew bottom right is called glance

Replaced pulseaudio with pipewire

Waybar is fun to mess with, it can read css files, so you can customize it to fit your needs

Wallpaper talks for itself 8)

I made this from scratch, never used sway before, so this was a fun project to begin :)
(no old hidden configs anywhere, blank canvas and a lot of coffee)

I'll share my ~/.config folder if anyone wanna try this

;D
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VastOne

Quote from: dizzie on April 16, 2025, 12:38:03 AMI'll share my ~/.config folder if anyone wanna try this

;D

Freaking awesome dude! WOW!
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dizzie



This is perfection, everything is colour/theme matched (Using the Nord theme) Makes me a happy camper. I like when stuff plays nicely in harmony ;D

Sway+Waybar is really nice, I should have switched ages ago 8)

So my topbar? (from left to right)
- "time/date", 
- "outside temp, I mean weather",
- "desktops"
- "selected window title",
- "cpu speed/load" (left click for cpugoverner speed steps)",
- "cpu temp",
- "vol% (left click for pavucontrol (works with pipewire too so why not?)), and lastly
- "net info" (ip, gateway, up/down speed etc (all in the tooltype)

And as you can see, some have tooltypes :)

The windows:
- Top left: Weechat,
- Bottom left: Mocp,
- Top/bottom Right: A browser, yep that one!

I'll share my configs for a cup of joe and two biscuits (the kind you call cookies "over there")

(Btw, this is my tiny 15watt NUC, hence only one screen)

OS: Arch Linux x86_64
Kernel: Linux 6.14.2-arch1-1
Uptime: 49 mins
Packages: 518 (pacman)
Shell: bash 5.2.37
Display (LA2205): 1680x1050 @ 60 Hz in ]
WM: Sway 1.10.1 (Wayland)
Cursor: Adwaita
Terminal: foot 1.21.0
Terminal Font: BlexMonoNerdFont-Regular)
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-6100U (4) @ 2.30GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 520 @ 1.00 GHz
Memory: 2.12 GiB / 15.45 GiB (14%)
Swap: 0 B / 4.00 GiB (0%)
Disk (/): 10.04 GiB / 231.77 GiB (4%)
Local IP (eno1): 10.0.0.12/24
Locale: en_US.UTF-8

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