apt-get destruction

[PackRat]

On the lite version of VSIDO, lxdm installed with no dependencies except a pixbuf app

I wanted to test it on the Stock VSIDO but this is what it wants to do

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vastone@vsido:~$ get lxdm
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  gnome-screenshot gvfs-backends gvfs-fuse libfm-data libfm-extra4 libfm-gtk-data libfm-gtk4
  libfm-modules libfm4 libgdata-common libgdata22 libgoa-1.0-0b libgoa-1.0-common libkeybinder0
  libmenu-cache-bin libmenu-cache3 liboauth0 libobrender32v5 libobt2v5 libunique-1.0-0
  lxde-common lxde-core lxlock lxmenu-data lxpanel lxpanel-data lxpolkit lxrandr lxsession
  lxsession-data lxsession-default-apps lxsession-logout lxtask obconf obsession openbox
  openbox-lxde-session openbox-menu pcmanfm
Suggested packages:
  bluez-obexd samba-common libfm-tools nautilus-actions lxlauncher lxde gpicview fonts-dejavu
  libxml2-dev openbox-gnome-session openbox-kde-session
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gnome-screenshot gvfs-backends gvfs-fuse libfm-data libfm-extra4 libfm-gtk-data libfm-gtk4
  libfm-modules libfm4 libgdata-common libgdata22 libgoa-1.0-0b libgoa-1.0-common libkeybinder0
  libmenu-cache-bin libmenu-cache3 liboauth0 libobrender32v5 libobt2v5 libunique-1.0-0
  lxde-common lxde-core lxdm lxlock lxmenu-data lxpanel lxpanel-data lxpolkit lxrandr lxsession
  lxsession-data lxsession-default-apps lxsession-logout lxtask obconf obsession openbox
  openbox-lxde-session openbox-menu pcmanfm
0 upgraded, 40 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 6,059 kB of archives.
After this operation, 23.2 MB of additional disk space will be used.
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This is what it wanted to do when I first attempted to install lxdm; once I made the fix to apt.conf provided by hakerdefo it went fine.

[PackRat]

Nope, not a lightdm issue...

Looks like Stock is dead

That's a bummer.

[VastOne]

This is what it wanted to do when I first attempted to install lxdm; once I made the fix to apt.conf provided by hakerdefo it went fine.

You have a link to this?

Found it

[VastOne]

Nope, not a lightdm issue...

Looks like Stock is dead

That's a bummer.

Lets go through the differential list and I'll turn Lite into Stock

[PackRat]

First run through - I suspect others on the list will get hauled in as deps:

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# for laptops
acpi   
acpid
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics

# multi media stuff
gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad:amd64
gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:amd64
gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:amd64
gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly:amd64

xserver-xorg-video-intel -- popular video chip

lame
ffmpeg

genisoimage
xfburn

mpg123 -- one of these
mpg321

mpv
smplayer

# conky stuff
lm-sensors
hddtemp

# other stuff
gawk   |-- surprised these are not in debian base
rfkill |

filezilla
unrar
wicd
wicd-gtk
disk-manager
compton

gtk2-engines-murrine
gtk2-engines-pixbuf

greybird-gtk-theme   -- pick one of these for the lxdm and greeter theme (/etc/lxdm.conf) unless you prefer the industrial theme ( retro is pretty cool after all  8) ).
blackbird-gtk-theme

With those and the other drivers I listed earlier in the other thread, VSIDO should install and work OOTB on 98.6667% (estimated) of intel based computers.

[VastOne]

Creating the build environment now... Will keep you updated on the size differential on each

Regarding this .. I have created a VSIDO theme that replaces Industrial

greybird-gtk-theme  blackbird-gtk-theme  -- pick one of these for the lxdm and greeter theme (/etc/lxdm.conf) unless you prefer the industrial theme ( retro is pretty cool after all  )

[VastOne]

acpi acpid xserver-xorg-input-synaptics         added 527k

gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad:amd64 gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:amd64 gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:amd64 gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly:amd64 Here is the killer     323 MiB added... NO FUCKING WAY  ... Can add to a new script either on first login or the welcome script

xserver-xorg-video-intel lame ffmpeg genisoimage xfburn mpg123 mpg321 mpv smplayer    adds 50 MiB (the pig in this bunch is smplayer so it will not be added and will instead lumped into the gstreamers pile) without smplayer it is 14.6 MiB

lm-sensors hddtemp gawk rfkill filezilla unrar wicd wicd-gtk disk-manager compton   adds 44 MiB (I don't like the WiCD crap at all.. my take is if you are going to use sid you BETTER know ceni and how to connect a laptop)

gtk2-engines-murrine gtk2-engines-pixbuf   adds 333 Kb 

Building it now to determine total jump of ISO size

[VastOne]

I believe it will add 20-30 MiB more to take lite from 490 to 510-525 range

Will have exact number and a test ISO in 15 minutes

FYI at the end of this I expect to only have 1 set of ISO's and a debate before then even to continue the x32 ISO

[PackRat]

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I don't like the WiCD crap at all.....

Neither do I, and I don't think it's maintained. I actually use connman/connman-gtk, or just dhcpd/ceni.

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gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad:amd64 gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:amd64 gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:amd64 gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly:amd64 Here is the killer     323 MiB added... NO FUCKING WAY  ... Can add to a new script either on first login or the welcome script

An "install multimedia codecs" option in the welcome script or even in the menu works.

[VastOne]

I can do that... with the multimedia stuff

I'll trade you smplayer for WiCD... deal?

Doing that would make the iso at about 505... I like it

[PackRat]

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xserver-xorg-video-intel lame ffmpeg genisoimage xfburn mpg123 mpg321 ...

You only need one of mpg123/mpg321 - mpg321 was a fork of mpg123 to get around some proprietary stuff, but the new maintainer of mpg123 went with a full LGPL licence after fixing the security bugs.

[VastOne]

Right... only the first one is installed.. will clean that up

[PackRat]

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I'll trade you smplayer for WiCD... deal?


Deal; I've never been a fan of wicd, but NetworkManager has too many dependencies. Both are memory hogs.

It's ceni or connman-gtk - and you already have ceni installed.

[VastOne]

 Cool... 

connman-gtk debian?  I'll see about adding it

[PackRat]

It should be there - the author of the installer, Fillipe (sp ?) recommended it - started a thread about it. Very user friendly gui, just works.

on void -

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676.0 KiB + 110.5 KiB = 786.5 KiB connman-vpnd
1.4 MiB + 124.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB connmand

pretty low on resources, I need to see if I can stop that vpn daemon. But it does do vpn, that has always been the selling point for NetworkManager over wicd - connecting to vpn.

I only use connman on my laptop since it's quicker than ceni when roaming, otherwise ceni all the way.

Did iw and wireless tools get pulled in? I think they must be there since the live session connects to wireless. Probably want those if not.

Edit - actually looks like filip is the author of connman-gtk.