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Debian Bullshit
« on: March 21, 2018, 01:55:54 AM »
So I filed this bug report today

Straight forward, an update killed the ability to run any kind of apt-get update, dist-upgrade or install of any kind.. apt was broken

The response and closing of the bug makes it pretty clear where Debian is still stuck up their own asses

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That's because you use packages from Debian Multimedia (dmo), which
breaks the dependency/file replacement resolution process of apt by
unnecessarily increasing the version number (1:1.12 > 1.14).

I resolved it by pretty much eliminating the multimedia repos and reinstalled the gstreamer stuff from SID

It did not sit well with me today... I never have understood the need to place blame on the end user when reporting an obvious bug
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Re: Debian Bullshit
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2018, 04:19:05 AM »
I never had an issue with DMO, unless something got wacked out on DMO's side that could have triggered that bug in apt.

I can see there is a write conflict as both the DMO and the regular Debian gstreamer package share the same files. Surprised it didn't "upgrade" the package like it should.

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Re: Debian Bullshit
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2018, 04:23:35 AM »
Thanks DeepDayze.. it turned out to be a patience issue on my part.. If I had waited one day the DMO side would have caught up to the Debian Sid repos and all would have been fine.. I know these things happen time to time as we live on the edge and I completely understand it

It is fixed and the DMO repos are now back in the builds

What pissed me off was as the end user being told I was basically an idiot for using anything other than PURE DEBIAN

Just old bullshit.. tiresome and unnecessary.. It could easily be the way the developer communicates..

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Re: Debian Bullshit
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2018, 04:27:37 AM »
Thanks DeepDayze.. it turned out to be a patience issue on my part.. If I had waited one day the DMO side would have caught up to the Debian Sid repos and all would have been fine.. I know these things happen time to time as we live on the edge and I completely understand it

It is fixed and the DMO repos are now back in the builds

What pissed me off was as the end user being told I was basically an idiot for using anything other than PURE DEBIAN

Just old bullshit.. tiresome and unnecessary.. It could easily be the way the developer communicates..

I hear you...the most polite way would been to say wait tlll DMO is fully in sync then try the update again...apparently DMO and debian was not quite in sync. If I run into that issue it can be a mess to clean up though, as when you (temporarily) remove a problem package so that the update can go through it will remove anything dependent on it and that can be a mess.

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Re: Debian Bullshit
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2018, 04:32:46 AM »
It was a mess.. it took several removals and the right sequence to first uninstall and then reinstall them in a specific order..

Here is what is interesting... When I put the dmo repo back, the 3 files that were the issue were updated from that dmo repo.. and in the process 15MiB of data was freed.. I can live with a repo that provides the same (and most time better files) AND cuts the debian cruft out .. I like that a lot

In the end, VSIDO and people who use the dmo wins
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