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Feedback & Suggestions / Re: VSIDO ll Velociraptor
« on: September 17, 2013, 11:22:05 PM »
Without looking at the smxi script, I would say you're correct and nouveau isn't getting installed/loaded properly. I suspect the script is similar to what I have to do which is:

1. blacklist nouveau modules
2. reboot to non-nouveau
3. Install nvidia drivers

good you got it working.

My only hitch was an install hang at the grub installation section. second try was no issues.

Artwork & Screenshots / Re: September 2013 Screenshots
« on: September 17, 2013, 11:14:42 PM »
^ nice one; is it all original work?

got my fluxbox key bindings and decors the way I want them -

solid release vastone, treat yourself to 36 holes on dizzie's account  ;D

WM Designs and Discussions / Re: cwm window manager
« on: September 17, 2013, 01:18:37 PM »
Didn't know there was basic tiling native to cwm, tiling is always handy:

just add key bindings in .cwmrc for htile and vtile.

Artwork & Screenshots / Re: September 2013 Screenshots
« on: September 16, 2013, 11:26:33 PM »
Nice work with this release vastone -

WM Designs and Discussions / Re: Using FLUXBOX as a Window Manager
« on: September 16, 2013, 11:32:06 AM »
^, ^^ muchas gracias

Started out as an exercise in using MacroCmd and ToggleCmd (see fluxbox wiki for details) - I chose window placement to see if I could replicate the Win-Left/Right/Up/Down behavior of Windows 7. Used only native fluxbox commands and have hit a couple snags when multiple windows are open - tiling to the right doesn't always work - but will if the key binding is invoked again; unfortunately, I do not know of a way for fluxbox to resize a window based on a percentage of the desktop, not pixels (my commands are for 1366x768 laptop, adjust for your monitors). I suspect that using scripts with wmctl and/or xdotool smoother tiling is possible. Adding ToggleDecor to the command string would probably be beneficial too.

as far as I know, pytile works with fluxbox - but that's cheating  ;)
the object with this exercise is to use fluxbox's internal commands to get the desired results.

Edit - Received a telepathic message from Captain Obvious this morning (in my world she looks like Salma Hayek); if 50% is used instead of, say 50, with the ResizeTo command, fluxbox will interpret that as 50% of the desktop real estate and account for the fluxbox toolbar and anything docked in the slit (conky in my instance) rather than 50 pixels.

now just have to solve issue of tiling to right.

Edit #2 - last one, I promise - MacroCmd is read left to right so the order matters:

ToggleDecor --> ResizeTo --> MoveTo = the proper order, all the windows are tiled as desired.

and the code, one chain to untile the active window:

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# manual tiling with key chains - useing chains to avoid clash with keybindings #

Ctrl a Mod4 h :ArrangeWindowsHorizontal
Ctrl a Mod4 v :ArrangeWindowsVertical

Ctrl a Mod4 l :MacroCmd {ResizeTo 50% 50%} {MoveTo 0 0 UpperLeft} {MaximizeVertical}
Ctrl a Mod4 r :MacroCmd {ResizeTo 50% 50%} {MoveTo 0 0 UpperRight} {MaximizeVertical}
Ctrl a Mod4 t :MacroCmd {ResizeTo 50% 50%} {MoveTo 0 0 UpperLeft} {MaximizeHorizontal}
Ctrl a Mod4 b :MacroCmd {ResizeTo 50% 50%} {MoveTo 0 0 LowerLeft} {MaximizeHorizontal}

Ctrl a Mod1 h :MacroCmd {ToggleDecor} {ResizeTo 50% 50%} {MoveTo 0 0 UpperLeft}
Ctrl a Mod1 j :MacroCmd {ToggleDecor} {ResizeTo 50% 50%} {MoveTo 0 0 UpperRight}
Ctrl a Mod1 k :MacroCmd {ToggleDecor} {ResizeTo 50% 50%} {MoveTo 0 0 LowerLeft}
Ctrl a Mod1 l :MacroCmd {ToggleDecor} {ResizeTo 50% 50%} {MoveTo 0 0 LowerRight}

Ctrl a Mod4 m :MacroCmd {ToggleDecor} {Resize 60% 40%} {MoveTo 0 0 Center}

enough for now, time to back up files and set up for Velociraptor install.

Artwork & Screenshots / Re: September 2013 Screenshots
« on: September 16, 2013, 03:08:57 AM »
messing around with window placement while downloading velociraptor:

let the system configuration begin -

WM Designs and Discussions / Re: Using FLUXBOX as a Window Manager
« on: September 16, 2013, 02:39:49 AM »
Messing around with adding pseudo tiling behavior in fluxbox while downloading V-raptor.

Getting mixed results:

The code if anyone interested wants to tinker with it. Started out as an exercise in using MacroCmd and ToggleCmd for some keybindings:

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Mod1 Shift l :MacroCmd {MoveTo 0 0 UpperLeft} {ResizeTo 683 200} {MaximizeVertical}
Mod1 Shift r :MacroCmd {MoveTo 0 0 UpperRight} {ResizeTo 683 200} {MaximizeVertical}
Mod1 Shift t :MacroCmd {MoveTo 0 0 UpperLeft} {RezizeTo 200 393} {MaximizeHorizontal}
Mod1 Shift b :MacroCmd {MoveTo 0 0 LowerLeft} {ResizeTo 100 393} {MaximizeHorizontal}

Mod4 Shift h :MacroCmd {ResizeTo 682 364} {MoveTo 0 0 UpperLeft}
Mod4 Shift j :MacroCmd {ResizeTo 682 364} {MoveTo 0 0 UpperRight}
Mod4 Shift k :MacroCmd {ResizeTo 682 364} {MoveTo 0 0 LowerLeft}
Mod4 Shift l :MacroCmd {ResizeTo 682 364} {MoveTo 0 0 LowerRight}

VSIDO Discussions / Re: New Direction thoughts
« on: September 15, 2013, 01:57:01 PM »
@vastone -

Yes, I find fluxbox much easier to configure than openbox since you don't need to deal with xml syntax. In all fairness though, I was using blackbox and fluxbox with RedHat 6 and 7 before openbox was around so there is a familiarity issue.

The real selling point(s) for me are:
1. tabbed windows -- can't live without 'em
2. self contained - don't need tint2 or some other 3rd party panel

Openbox is a solid window manager though - I know people that love pipe menus; which I don't think fluxbox can do (fluxbox macro maybe?) - but fvwm can. Like most things linux, you find what works for you and go with it.

I only recommended removing openbox and geany (which I use, by the way) because there is a duplication of services there with your preferred apps fluxbox and medit - same with spacefm and thunar. I am very much a advocate of the "one app that works" design philosophy when it comes to distros. The nice thing about using debian is that what the end user ultimately wants to use is typically only an "apt-get install" away.

So design VSIDO like you would paint a landscape or sculpt a still life and make it an extension of your self. We end users can then decide which frame suits our needs.

Looking forward to the new release, may prompt me to do a clean install if I have the time.

VSIDO Discussions / Re: New Direction thoughts
« on: September 15, 2013, 01:40:09 AM »
@statmonkey -

I'm guessing - no betting! - it was urukrama's blog you were using for openbox.

If you want/need to learn fluxbox, start with the HowTo section of the fluxbox wiki; and ask your questions in the fluxbox section of the wm configuration thread. The fluxbox thread over at #! forums is almost as good as VSIDO one  ;D

Artwork & Screenshots / Re: September 2013 Screenshots
« on: September 14, 2013, 02:47:41 AM »
@dizzie -

yep, some days you just don't want the eye candy ....

Artwork & Screenshots / Re: September 2013 Screenshots
« on: September 12, 2013, 11:01:09 PM »
^ what services are running / not running to get that memory usage?

booted the live usb and kicked the tires on the new build for a bit; smooth.

back on topic - bspwm; it's nice but still prefer fluxbox and i3 - tabbed windows are so much better IMHO:

VSIDO Discussions / Re: New Direction thoughts
« on: September 12, 2013, 05:15:38 PM »

geany doesn't need any of xfce, just a couple gtk libs, and whatever plugins you want to install with it.

WM Designs and Discussions / bspwm window manager
« on: September 11, 2013, 05:18:08 PM »
Been checking out bspwm - second time I've tried it, put a little more patience and effort into this time.

It's a tiling window manager written by an arch linux user - check out the dedicated thread

There are two programs to install - bspwm itself, and the program to define the key bindings - sxhkd - both available from the github linked in the op of the arch thread.

Here is a good HowTo for installing on a debian system (it's in the aur for you arch users).

First time I tried using bspwm, I tried it with xbindkeys because sxhkd wasn't working for me (and a couple #! users) but following that HowTo fixed whatever was messing me up - dependency? Using xbindkeys was causing some issues with other window managers on my system, so go with sxhkd. Two other recommended programs - dzen2 and dmenu.

There is a bit of a learning curve - particularly with the default key bindings - to understand how the windows get manipulated, so read the man pages for bspwm and sxhkd before logging in for the first time. After learning some basics, and setting up some key bindings you're comfortable with, manipulating windows becomes pretty straight forward.

Like most tilers, it has it's default layout - the binary space partitioning was why I checked it out in the first place, it's unique. But, window partitioning can be manual as well - reminiscent of musca window manager for any that have tried it - so it's really easy to get open windows into the layout you want.

Some screenshots -

Panels do work with this window manager, but I'm not sure I got them set up correctly - got the panel started, but it is "always on top" so a portion of the active window disappears beneath the panel. Don't know if that's the default and can be changed. One way around it is to set the:

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bspc config window_gap
in the $HOME/.config/bspwm/bspwmrc file to a value that leaves the panel uncovered, but there is only one setting for left, right, top, bottom, and space between open windows so a setting of 20 to clear a panel will leave a lot of unused screen space.

The default panels are defined by some pretty impressive bash scripts and require dzen2 be installed.

The conky in the screenshots is a regular conky with:

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own_window no
Rules can be set up so that windows float by default (xine in the screenshot) and open on a particular desktop (9 virtual desktops by default).

All in all, a good, usable window manager that doesn't take too much effort to learn the basics. Hopefully, the project continues. This single post can't really do it justice, read through the arch thread to get an idea of what can be done with this wm; or watch the screencast (link at top of page) --

Artwork & Screenshots / Re: September 2013 Screenshots
« on: September 11, 2013, 01:41:20 AM »
@jed -

that the test release, or a re-install?

VSIDO Discussions / Re: New Direction thoughts
« on: September 11, 2013, 01:39:37 AM »
Reconfigured my vsido to mirror the planned release. I like it, sound quality is better with pulseaudio, never really used xfce so it's not missed. Will miss geany, but medit is solid.

Going to be a good release when you're done.

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