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VSIDO Controls => VSIDO Changes => Topic started by: VastOne on July 07, 2015, 04:12:45 PM

Title: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: VastOne on July 07, 2015, 04:12:45 PM
This area will now be for changed and discussions for VSIDO changes.

We will park any and all script and design changes here, once any changes have made it to here they will be included on the next ISO release
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: PackRat on July 28, 2015, 02:28:01 PM
Is lvm2 (logical volume management) (https://wiki.debian.org/LVM) installed by default with VSIDO, or is in the post install script?

Either way would be a nice addition.

Also, did an install of the latest iso and noticed that curl and rsync were in the post install script. I thought those were already added to default install so it is redundant (and misleading) to be in the script.
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: PackRat on July 28, 2015, 02:33:01 PM
A couple of scripts for consideration -

ps_mem - (https://github.com/pixelb/ps_mem) handy script for identifying memory usage; also good to get the name of running services for systemd stop/restart.

bash_mount - (https://github.com/jamielinux/bashmount) bash script for mounting devices. Mounts devices rw, very useful especially if you're not using a login manager that provides automounting.
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: VastOne on July 28, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
Is lvm2 (logical volume management) (https://wiki.debian.org/LVM) installed by default with VSIDO, or is in the post install script?

Either way would be a nice addition.

Also, did an install of the latest iso and noticed that curl and rsync were in the post install script. I thought those were already added to default install so it is redundant (and misleading) to be in the script.

All three are defaults now in VSIDO.  RE the post install vsido-welcome script.  I am in the process now of revamping that to a more current needed apps list and will look for feedback on what to include in another post in this sub forum.  I am also entertaining the idea of making it a yad or python script (with assistance here from all but will especially ping  misko_2083 and hakerdefo)

A couple of scripts for consideration -

ps_mem - (https://github.com/pixelb/ps_mem) handy script for identifying memory usage; also good to get the name of running services for systemd stop/restart.

bash_mount - (https://github.com/jamielinux/bashmount) bash script for mounting devices. Mounts devices rw, very useful especially if you're not using a login manager that provides automounting.

These are great suggestions... Would you set these up as aliases as the best way to use them? (after locating them in /usr/local/bin)
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: PackRat on July 28, 2015, 07:53:24 PM
I just installed them to /usr/local/bin as per the INSTALL instructions.

ps_mem needs to be run as root.

The commands are easy enough to remember, I usually reserve aliases for commands with switches/flags - like "apt-get purge --remove".
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: Snap on July 29, 2015, 05:51:02 AM
A couple of scripts for consideration -

ps_mem - (https://github.com/pixelb/ps_mem) handy script for identifying memory usage; also good to get the name of running services for systemd stop/restart.

bash_mount - (https://github.com/jamielinux/bashmount) bash script for mounting devices. Mounts devices rw, very useful especially if you're not using a login manager that provides automounting.

Great stufff. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: Snap on July 29, 2015, 06:06:36 AM
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RE the post install vsido-welcome script.  I am in the process now of revamping that to a more current needed apps list and will look for feedback on what to include in another post in this sub forum.  I am also entertaining the idea of making it a yad or python script (with assistance here from all but will especially ping  misko_2083 and hakerdefo)

That sounds great to me.

It would be great adding a little more control for the user. Welcome scripts (not only vsido's) tend to install a truckload of stuff along with all their recommends. You don't really know what will be installed untill it's all installed and sometimes you get unpleasant surprises discovering that this and that went silently through.
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: hakerdefo on January 06, 2016, 11:43:02 AM
A friend called me recently and said he wasn't able to view images imported from his Canon digital camera. I asked him to open the image(s) in Mirage, he replied that Mirage was unable to open them. Perplexed I went over to his place to have a look and discovered that his camera was capturing images in RAW format! A bit of googling and I learned that now-a-days even most mid range mobile phones are also able to capture images in RAW. There are some RAW image editors out there but they are complicated and overkill to just view the images. Further research reveled that there are not many image viewers out there that support RAW formats! Then I came across 'Geeqie'. It is a wonderful little image viewer that is lightning quick, lightweight and importantly support many RAW image formats beside the regular image types. A worthy candidate for inclusion as default VSIDO image viewer. Trying Geeqie is as easy as,

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install geeqie

Can (Should) Geeqie replace Mirage on VSIDO? What you guys think?
Cheers!!!
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: VastOne on January 06, 2016, 02:31:23 PM
I will look very seriously as this. My daughter is a photographer and we deal with raw images all the time. Mirage is a great app but I'm always open to change so I will let you know. I also encourage everyone else to take a look at it
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: PackRat on January 06, 2016, 03:06:21 PM
Depending on what you're trying to do, there is also ufraw (stand alone) and a ufraw plugin for gimp so photos can be imported directly to gimp.

Pretty sure my camera can take RAW image format; I'll take some pics and try some viewers.
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: Snap on January 07, 2016, 08:29:21 AM
Really interesting. Gonna try it.

Thanks, hackerdefo.
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: Snap on January 07, 2016, 08:39:01 AM
At first instance and fast check... wow!!!  ???
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: PackRat on January 08, 2016, 10:23:27 PM
RE - raw format photos

I just noticed that the package tumbler-plugins-extra provides a plug-in for RAW digital camera images. This should allow the images to be viewable in thunar (any file manager, I suppose) correct?
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: Snap on January 09, 2016, 06:40:12 AM
Cannot check ATM. I gave my cameras away to one sister and a friend a while ago and my crap cell phone is like 8 years old. Not RAW available,

Regarding viewers, The only thing that somewhat annoys me is cropping on the fly. Crap in mirage and none in geeqie (or haven't found it). Still having to open the slow Gimp, but aside of that, geequie is really feature rich and not much extra dependencies needed. I really like it. Though maybe for the Vsido default apps Mirage is more than enough and doesn't pull any extra package.
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: hakerdefo on January 09, 2016, 07:50:23 PM
RE - raw format photos

I just noticed that the package tumbler-plugins-extra provides a plug-in for RAW digital camera images. This should allow the images to be viewable in thunar (any file manager, I suppose) correct?
Sadly tumbler is a known CPU eater. If browsing a slow (comparatively) flash based device or optical device with plenty of images tumbler can even lock the whole device. It is designed for Thunar so I'm not sure how well it can integrate with other file managers! Only other image viewers that can handle the RAW files are shotwell and nomacs. shotwell too me is a bit too bloated and big for VSIDO and nomacs is not available in the Debian repositories!
Cheers!!!
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: hakerdefo on January 09, 2016, 08:09:33 PM
Cannot check ATM. I gave my cameras away to one sister and a friend a while ago and my crap cell phone is like 8 years old. Not RAW available,

Regarding viewers, The only thing that somewhat annoys me is cropping on the fly. Crap in mirage and none in geeqie (or haven't found it). Still having to open the slow Gimp, but aside of that, geequie is really feature rich and not much extra dependencies needed. I really like it. Though maybe for the Vsido default apps Mirage is more than enough and doesn't pull any extra package.
Hey there Snap,
Want an image viewer with basic image editing support? Here is a nice one with GTK interface,

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install viewnior

And here is a cute one with Qt,

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install phototonic

GIMP too slow and complicated for simple image editing tasks? Here is an alternative,

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install pinta

Try them this weekend and give your valuable feedback.

Cheers!!!
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: Snap on January 11, 2016, 07:13:31 AM
Ah, yes, pinta. Thanks, hackerdefo. It's nice and great, but I always revert back to Gimp besides it takes ages to launch. Viewnior is cool too and it formerly was my togo viewer, but I always revert back to MIrage since I discover it thanks to Vsido.

BTW, geeqie is now in my cool apps list.
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: PackRat on February 05, 2016, 06:01:06 PM
Replace xchat with hexchat?

Xchat is apparently deprecated/obsoleted, and no longer a package available in sid or testing. It's been replaced by xchat-gnome (which looks like sh't; gtk3 issue I think). So there won't be any upgrades for xchat.

Hexchat is basically the same program as xchat - as far as user interface goes anyway - and doesn't add much, if anything, if a user replaces xchat.
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: jedi on February 05, 2016, 07:21:32 PM
@PackRat - Simple apt-get away!  That was easy...

Thanks I had heard that about xchat.  :'(  I'll give it a try.  I used it on winbloze before...   ???
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: VastOne on February 05, 2016, 07:30:04 PM
Been thinking about just doing away with any IRC client since it is one of those that is so subjective in nature...

There is nothing at all binding configuration wise of having any at all...

I say we do away with it completely and let the users decide
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: PackRat on February 05, 2016, 08:31:14 PM
^ That works for me. You're right, it's subjective - like a user's email client.
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: jedi on February 06, 2016, 02:38:05 AM
@PackRat, thanks, have switched to hexchat.  Xchat with a different name...
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: ido on April 06, 2016, 06:01:16 PM
"fotoxx" is an interesting program which can handle RAW files.
http://kornelix.com/fotoxx/fotoxx.html
In debian repository, fotoxx version may not be the latest but you can download deb package directly from author's site.

For my default i'll stay with mirage but fotoxx does have a nice featureset.
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: VastOne on April 06, 2016, 07:04:37 PM
Welcome to VSIDO ido we hope you enjoy your stay, there is always donuts, cakes and coffee

Great find with fotoxx... interesting tool that looks promising ... my daughter is a professional photographer and we are always looking at these types of tools
Title: Re: VSIDO Changes Area
Post by: ozitraveller on April 07, 2016, 11:45:40 PM
I came across the a few years ago now and thought it had potential.
Isenkram (http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatically_locate_and_install_required_firmware_packages_on_Debian__Isenkram_0_4_.html)

I've only just noticed that it's in the repos. Might be useful to bring the image size down, if fewer drivers are included in the image.
https://packages.debian.org/sid/main/isenkram